i read your "Slacker reaction" and it seems very logical and like a good alternative to tryin to steal farm fertilizer to make meth. i have been doing extensive research now for a period of 2 weeks (like 4 hours a day.) i undestand the basic theory of the E/RP/IODINE synth and your reaction is the easiest way f achieving it i have seen.

im having a little trouble with the set up though. what is a flask with a nipple connection? where can i buy one or what is an alternative, "homemade" if you will, to this? also is there any place where i can find pictures or even just drawings of the set up for this reaction? im more of a hands on learning and can't also take abstract thoughts in my mind and apply them physically well. if you know of any places where i can find a sketch of your reaction set up or if you could email me a basic sketch (moderately detailed and large visuals) i would really appreciate it. i figured i might as well go to the source and ask someone knowledgeable instead if asking people who go around tryin lord's synth, etc.

thanks very much

well the nipple flask i was referring too is a flask for vacuum filtration.you dont have to use that kind of flask, you can use a regular flask with a 1-holed stopper and just have the tubing coming out of the stopper if you like, but SWIA likes the nipple flask better. also you will want to follow a new extraction technique for the ephedrine, such as the E-Gull or something similar. as far as the pictures of set ups go.... I have them around here somewhere, let me find them and put them up on a site for ya. it might take me a day or 2 to get it all set up but i will put them up for ya.

thats alot man, i really appreciate the help

Acidmelt... Swim was wondering about the Slacker too. Initially do you add any DH2O? Swim was also wondering what kind of yield to expect. In the water "washing" part--does this not get rid of some of the honey in there? Sorry for all the questions, but would like to know more before any MORE dry runs.. (not with Slacker tho..) Swim appreciates the help... and patience.

After a reaction is completed, one is left with many by-products, impurities, left over acids, some RP, probably a small amount of unreduced pseudo, and of course meth. This is commonly known as "Honey". The honey, is a polar layer, made up of a mostly acidic environment.

This "honey" can NOT be water washed, otherwise much product will be lost. In this step, one must first wash with a Non-Polar solvent, which will NOT mix with the honey. Once the layers have formed(honey/NP mix), then seperate the NP from the honey, and discard the dirty NP. Keep the honey, and do another NP rinse.

Then, base the honey by adding NaOH. Once the pH of 14 has been reached, then add more NP, wait till they form perfectly mirrored layers, then seperate. This time keep the NP. Now add fresh NP to the honey again, and do it again. Seperate the NP from the honey, pool the 2 lots of NP. Do this step one last time, keeping all Non-Polar "pulls".

What has happened, is that the Methamphetamine HCL contained in the "honey", was turned to Freebase Methamphetamine when the pH raised to 14. Unlike Meth HCL, Freebase Meth is Non-polar soluble. Meaning that it(the FB meth) will be absorbed from the polar layer(water layer/bottom layer), moving into the NP layer. It usually takes about 3 "pulls" to get all of the product from the "honey".

Now, with the 3 combined pulls of the NP, one can water wash the NP(as Freebase meth is NOT water soluble), to help clean the product.

Now it's time for titration. That's a whole other chapter in the book about the A/B.

Hope this helps,

Lukky D

Thanks Lukky... Just wondering on the post-base NP that can be water-washed... Is this an effective method? Would this perhaps rid one of any pseudo or Swirh generally wants to know if this technique is highly advised or what? Swirh had read that the (sp) mentioned b4 was usually the ingredient in the liquid products that didn't list the ingredients. Any thoughts on this? Swirh has tried to find the OEM (hehe, so to speak) website and get more info on the ingredients but no luck there. Still wondering about the amount of DH2O that should/shouldn't be added at beginning of Slacker--? Thanks once again for the help.

bloody pony (get it red horse, bloody pony. funny, huh?)

OK, forget that. Somebody is wiggin' way too hard.

Anyway..

Look at the thread by kelz or killz or...damn, I forgot, but the title is something like this one. It says, "oh great and wonderful king AM, please help me too." (just kiddin' AM)

See if I wrote anything that will help you.

The pseudo thing.....sorry, anything you do to that meth in the rxn mix will also do the same to the pseudo. It will tag along like a snot nosed little brother on your date with the finest ho in school. Yeah, high school. Damn, the thought of high school sluts gets my blood flowin'. Straight down and straight out!!!

I gotta shut up.

But, one of them isn't soluble in chloroform and the other is.

Hmmmmm.

Lol, Gotta... I appreciate the help... and the memory recall of the sluts... Hehe, anyhow.... thanx for the help..

ok SWIA ALWAYS washes his post-base NP with warm d-h20 at least 4 times. this will clean out any junk that maybe left in there. I have heard ppl say that this is bad for yeilds (which i dont believe), and others that swear by it. see if you can clean up your product enough before crystalization then it will save you time in the long run because you wont have to do any recrystalization cleanings. SWIA has never had to recrystalize any of his product and he contributes a lot of this to the washes on the honey(polar) layer with NP, and then after basing washing the NP with warm d-h20. this is just a rambling of SWIA but he finds that it really helps and saves time in the long run. I hope this answered any questions that you might have had

I debated revealing this dark secret, but I can't live with the shame any longer. Swigotta doesn't rinse or wash at any stage anymore.

AAAAARRRRRGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!

I know. It's horrible isn't it. The other day I was talking all that shit about purity and taking the time to do things right and now look, I can't even get my homeboy to wash his post rxn solution.

So, before I'm shunned and cast out, let me explain.

I was over at Swigotta's last night.

Hold up a minute. I don't know if I ever told this story, but there's a funny thing about Swigotta. There really is a Swigotta. Gottagogo and Swigotta are not two different personas. There truly are two different people. I Gotta tell ya this so you can see just how ignernt this cuntry ass boy is. I was posting something way back, I don't know where, and I was using the word Swigotta, you know, to tell about something. It just so happens that this dude (Swigotta) was with me when I was doing what I was posting about (nasty things to nasty girls). Anyway, I took him a copy of the post so he could get a good laugh. When he read it, he automatically assumed that Swigotta was referring to him. I told him "you wish", you don't have the endurance to be in this story. (can't tell you that story. Too nasty.)

So, from then on, he starting calling himself Swigotta. He hardly ever posts anything. When he does, you can usually figure it out cause we don't write the same. His vocabulary is just a wee bit lacking. I forgot what I wanted to say in the first place......Oh, yeah, the ignernt (country spelling) thing about him is, he calls himself Swigotta in public. Embarrasses his wife. He thinks its cool. So if you ever hear some huge, tall, country boy say "Well, ma name is ???????, but ma friends call me Swigotta. It's when he says SweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeGotta that his wife turns beet red and pretends she doesn't know him.

Damn, I'm sorry. I'm doin that tangent thing again. Thats the Swigotta story anyway. Which reminds me.

We went over there last night. Late. (we always take the baby with us now, no matter what. She doesn't mind though). He met me at the door with pipe loaded and in hand. He was still kissin on my ass for insisting that he try that new technique. Our timing was impecable. He had just scraped the plate on the first batch using the new easily (too easily) obtained precursor (straight from the filter to the rxn). He asked me to do a number on it if it wasn't too much trouble. I gladly accepted as I don't get to do much hands on tech work. When the blower revealed the first crystals, they were like transparent houndstooth. Clear and sparkly. When they finished drying just enough, I flashed em and splashed em right into a filter. A little extra rinse and there they were, a beautiful pile of diamonds.

Swigotta didn't hesitate to spark up and say, "Looks don't count for shit. Stop jerkin off over em and git em dried so we can put em to a real test." I obliged like I was the friggin student and he was the teacher. HA!

OK, OK, the shit smoked smooth and had that.....I don't know.....that taste. The one that lets you know right away that its gonna kick yo ass. And it did. And still is.

THE POINT! WHERE'S THE FUCKIN' POINT???!!!

The point is this:

After we woke up a bit, he told me how he's been doing post rxn workups lately.

But.....ya know.......I think I'm gonna save it for a thread. I don't really start threads, I just respond all the time. Yeah, thats what I'll do, start a thread. Not right now. What, are you crazy. I Gotta ton of shit to do. I hope I remember. If its not up in 17 hours, somebody remind me. It's really pretty simple. It works out pretty good too. Well, actually now I've built it up into something when its really nothing. Thats it, I'll be the fucking laughing stock. Maybe not. Oh hell, we'll see.