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| Laboratory Tips Safety proceedures, test reagents, drilling rubber stoppers, bending glass tubes, etc. Contributed to by chemists. |
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#1
 2003-06-03, 01:28
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LearningTheHardWay 
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Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
What is the best cutting agent to use for some really good powder? Have you heard of Gastrolyte? I know by cutting it will take away some of the "kick" of it. But I still want it to be kick-ass like it is now.
Also, what are the measurements to use for each? (i.e., 1 part agent, 2 part powder, etc)
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#2
 2003-06-03, 04:06
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NeverSleepy 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
I seen a anti meth special on the news that says meth cooks cut there dope with lye. Montel Williams show is trying to scare folks away from meth to by useing these same lyeing out there ass tactics.
The best cut to use is no cut! Sell cut dope to the wrong tweeker and you might get cut.
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#3
 2003-06-03, 06:37
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tryptamine 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
The best cut for your dope is a cut across your cheap ass throat. It's fuck ups like you that have made drugs illegal.
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#4
 2003-06-03, 06:58
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LearningTheHardWay 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
If you don't like it, then don't buy it. The next guy will...
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#5
 2003-06-03, 15:17
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acidmelt 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
well fuckin put fellas. couldnt have said it better myself.
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#6
 2003-06-03, 22:18
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Frey Grimrod 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
If theirs other supply around there wont be that next guy to buy it... people would rather pay that extra and even wait for da goods...
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#7
 2003-06-04, 01:22
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lordmighty 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
personally, i don't like cut dope. if you are going to cut it though, i recommend getting some powder Vitablend (They have it at some GNCs, and a lot of jew-man stores carry it in my area). Cut it at a 1:1 ratio (1 gram cut per 1 gram drope)
some people i know also used crushed up vitamin b12.
[This message has been edited by lordmighty (edited 06-04-2003).]
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#8
 2003-06-04, 01:24
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FortyOunces 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
might as well not even argue, there will always be scumbags that insist on cutting there bags
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#9
 2003-06-04, 12:46
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DrPepper14 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
quote:Originally posted by FortyOunces:
might as well not even argue, there will always be scumbags that insist on cutting there bags
Yeah it's pretty much standard around here. So much that I've only seen pure dope about 3 times (the last 3 times luckily) people would rather pay 70-80 for a ball of 4:1 or 5:1 than 160-175 of real shit. Makes no sense but that's what's happening.
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#10
 2003-06-04, 18:01
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acidmelt 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
lord all mighty dont like cut dope??? thats a suprise cause everything you make (supposedly) is ALL CUT. cause there sure as hell wont be no meth in there. enjoy your vicks and ammonium nitrate retard.
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#11
 2003-06-05, 00:57
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lordmighty 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
quote:Originally posted by acidmelt:
lord all mighty dont like cut dope??? thats a suprise cause everything you make (supposedly) is ALL CUT.
At least i tell people the things that I DO KNOW unlike everyone else on here who just
diss on everybody else
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#12
 2003-06-05, 01:31
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suttleila 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
hey man learning the hardway dude fuck these people nobody slangs pure dope cut the fuck out of it and if its fire it will sell off the shelfs....use b12 also known as vitiblend use green label or red.... it is sold in 50 gram bottles and is real good cut..if its some head fucker dope 1st hit on the foil cut it 1to1 i mean that ain't real cut shit id make it 2to1 that means use 1g of b12 for every g of dope....thats only meth my friend for as coke i would use b3 also known as niacin if i got the b part wrong on the candy part then fuck it look for niacin pills man u could always use bakin soda lol and have some crack coke... holla
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#13
 2003-06-14, 04:11
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
lord I have this great method for good glass
....reflux water and pfed and then about 1hr into reaction add sodium metal
sm can be isolated from sodium cloride thru electrolysis. Using a gas stove take a battery charger ,and hook the neg to the metal pot containing sodium cloride(salt) and the pos to a grafite electrode and stir thru the pot The elemental sodium will pool to the top it will look like murcury scoop up and weigh it to 1/2 part compared to the pfed then use common sepparation methods to isolate pure methamphetamine
Have fun show these guys you are the man and you will have the last laugh when you have some great product at extrodanary yeilds
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#14
 2003-06-14, 05:19
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acidmelt 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
sutt you worthless piece of shit, your on your way to getting killed. not that you have ever cooked any dope that was "fire" as you call it, but if you did and you cut it (especially as much as you said) you would be killed by the first tweaker that did your cut up shit and you would deserve it. nobody that has any morals or respect for there product ( and you obviously dont cause your product would always suck since you use lords synth and that couldnt produce real dope) would ever cut the shit. i didnt like you before but now i think of you as complete fucking garbage. anyone here would slit your fucking throat for selling fucked up shit like that. and you call yourself a cook? you should be ashamed of yourself you piece of shit/
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#15
 2003-06-15, 03:04
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one800chiapet 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
quote:Originally posted by lordmighty:
At least i tell people the things that I DO KNOW unlike everyone else on here who just
diss on everybody else
I swear I will pay the mod who bans lordmighty via paypal. He should have been banned already.
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#16
 2003-06-15, 04:02
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makeshift69 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
damn u fuckin people wtf cut the shit with fuckin b12 just make sure its chopped up reeeaal fine thats great if swim or whoever dont cut his bags but nobody who is just trying to deal a lil shit and make some money gives a fuck even the person mainlines it b12 is harmless and its teh same shit they cut coke with and anything else u buy when u buy drugs they are cut usually its common knowledge dealers cut drugs it increases profeits so pull the stick out of ass and just answer the guys the question next time
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#17
 2003-06-15, 16:46
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
Well, I didn't even find this topic worth reading the other day. Now, its been almost 2 weeks and here it is......STILL.
So I read it. It's actually somewhat interesting. The first thing I noticed is the fact that every time this subject is brought up, it is met with a deluge of fury. Obviously we all have been ripped off or skimmed by someone adulterating the product, watering down the whiskey, intentionally deceiving the customer into believing he is getting more than he really is.
This MO is defended by "business" types. It makes you wonder if there really is 60mg of pseudo in those pills.
Oh well, just a tangent.
If you must cut, use strychnine, and , of course, always test to make sure it still works just like the real thing. Wouldn't want someone to get hip to your action before you can get on down the road now, wouldja?
Acidmelt--You are way too tense, man. Settle down. Take a deep breath. These guys are just trying to play "piss on the tied up rottweiler." Stay focused.
Now, what is the one thing that we have that they do not?
A college education wrapped around a lean slab of common sense.
AAAALLLLLLRRRRRIGHTY THEN!
BRING IT! BRING IT! CAN YA FEEL IT! YEAH! YEAH!
OK, moving right along.
If you do meth and you listen to what montel has to say, please, kill yourself now. Why torture yourself by living any longer?
Hey Frey--
people would rather pay that extra and even wait for da goods...
The kind of person who thinks like this is the reason Swigotta applies so much effort and dedicates so much time to post rxn. clean up and recrystallization. Good, clean stacks of clear, mica looking plates, with smooth, cool, almost unnoticable taste and airy, energetic buzz......you sure the hell don't need a sales pitch, ya hear what I'm sayin'?
Why would anyone go through all the trouble of producing fine quality goods, if their customers are going to look at it as being "not great, but ok fo 75 bucks a g."? What an embarrassment to the craft.
One last thing and I'll be fucking off.
Take a look at the STRIKING SIMILARITIES, in regard to structure and dialect, between suttleila's post about the B12 and makeshift69's post supporting sutt's power vitamin thinner outer.
Either this is a case of two turds floatin' in the same toilet or these two are really one. Hmmmmm....what are the odds?
Shit, sorry, I guess I'm not done yet afterall.
hardheaded learner--
If you really want to live up to your namesake.......
read, study, learn, practice, reproduce, preserve, share GENEROUSLY!!!
That's how you separate the sheep from the goats.
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#18
 2003-06-16, 05:51
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
I'm in Aus (downunder), & i've heard the rule of thumb for cooks is to cut it 3 times (don't know the ratio), before they will sell it. I've rarely seen crystal meth & they commonly call it Ice.
Havn't met any cooks but dealers are cutting with epsom salts or gluc. Sellin real pure meth here is just askin 4 trouble from the cops & standover dealers, Not to mention all the idiots that will bang it up there arm & OD caus there used to goey (cut).
Is it possible to cut it with salts or gluc then recrystallise ?
If so how? ratio?
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#19
 2003-06-16, 07:38
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gottagogo 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
GODDAMNIT!!!
What the fuck is going on here? Is anybody even listening, or am I alone in this imbicilic twilight zone?
Look you bunch of bound for the floor.......no, you idiots aren't smart enough to figure out what that means....hmmmm...how bout this:
IF YOU EVER ACQUIRE ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE TO ACTUALLY MAKE REAL CRYSTAL METHAMPHETAMINE, RECRYSTALLIZE IT UNTIL YOU ARE SATISFIED WITH ITS PURITY. FOR MOST OF THE IDIOTS WHO SUPPORT THIS THREAD, THEN ONE QUICK ALKY SWISHED WITH A LITTLE ACETONE IS SUFFICIENT. THEN DRY IT, PUT IT IN A CLEAN DRY CONTAINER FOR STORAGE AND THEN TAKE FROM IT ANY WAY YOU DESIRE.
BUT.....
DO NOT ADD ANYTHING TO IT. IF YOU ARE UP TO THE LEVEL WHERE YOU NEED TO BUMP A FUCKIN G TO GET OFF THEN YOU NEED TO GO AHEAD AND DIE LIKE THE MORON YOU ARE. OK, NO PROBLEM.
THE COPS? WHAT, AUSSIE COPS ALLOW BULLSHIT CRANK TRAFFIKING, BUT FROWN ON PURE CRYSTAL METH? WAY TOO STUPID FOR A DEBATE. OK, NO PROBLEM.
DOES ANYBODY EVER READ THIS SHIT AND ASK THEMSELVES WHY THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN A PRACTICE THAT THEY KNOW WOULD PISS THEM THE FUCK OFF IF THE ROLES WERE REVERSED.
WHY, WHY, WHY?
I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
BECAUSE YOU'RE A BUNCH OF LOSERS WHO LACK EVEN ENOUGH INTELLIGENCE TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE THE ROOT CAUSE OF EVERY SINGLE PROBLEM THAT REAL METH COOKS HAVE TO ENDURE.
WHY AM I EVEN BOTHERING TO TAKE THE TIME TO SPELL IT OUT.
YOU JUST DON'T GET IT.
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#20
 2003-06-16, 23:18
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
Ok, I told myself I wouldn't post a reply but this thing just will not die. It's worse than that freakin rabbit on Tv. Here's my take on the subject....I hate the mutherfuckers that cut their shit. Greedy ass spun-out punks. Thank you 
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#21
 2003-06-16, 23:50
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
Now-a-days a lot of tweakers like to smoke the meth, so cut up stuff is obvious. It does not vaporize right, and it will leave residue big time.
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#22
 2003-06-17, 03:07
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acidmelt 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
exactly!!! anyone that does meth will know that there shit was cut, especially if they bang it or smoke it. your just lookin for trouble.
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#23
 2003-06-18, 08:37
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
Have you's ever stopped to think that not everybody is a JUNKY, & that people might want to cut there shit for other reasons than just to try rip dumbasses off. I know smokers prefer pure but some people that aren't junkies like to snort or eat it, not to mention the damage pure does to your veins, nostrils or stomach. Give pure to some idiot at a rave & just wait for the blood to start pouring out there nose. Convincing people to only use pure is prolly doing more damage than good considering smoking meth is the most addictive method.
Atleast we want to cut pure, not like dumb dealers that are cutting already cut shit so they can get a hit for themselves.
Flame on, i'm out. I'll leave you nerds to play.
[This message has been edited by insane_huck (edited 06-18-2003).]
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#24
 2003-06-18, 10:46
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46method 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
you can see by the # of post i have that im here to learn new methods not blow off my mouth with useless bullshit! but this shit is Crazy. yea i got a degree and no it aint in chem. but lived on this farm all my life and have learned alot the hard way, but you dumbasses are asking for it. rain and gotta know why! why swim, 25 years ago learned how and why some "things" when combined react to produce "something" every enjoyable!!! then some dumb ass punk wants to fuck with what these reactions produce. no self pride. must be pussies, can't handle clean pure shit like swim sees everytime he dreams of "birch". whew! tryp, am and a whole shit load of yall that probly ain't half my age but know your shit keep up the good work. At least these dumbasses are good at letting us blow off steam!!!! !!!!!!
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#25
 2003-06-18, 16:48
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acidmelt 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
insane-huck , so your saying that pure stuff is more dangerous than shit cut with god-knows-what? and that pure stuff is harder on your stomach/viens than stuff that is cut-up? try saying that to somebody that shoots. bullshit.
46method- sounds like yoiu been around a while, hope you enjoy your stay
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#26
 2003-06-18, 17:25
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
Amen brother, amen. Lol, liked the eye-popping part too.
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#27
 2003-06-18, 20:18
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
LOL, thanks for the good laugh WickedRain.
We can always use a good rant!
Lukky D
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#28
 2003-06-19, 04:58
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46method 
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Re: Best Cutting Agent for Good Powder
give em hell rain! like i said before some of these pussies could'nt handle pure clean shit. "some" farm land shit like swim has seen in dreams many, many times.
swim dose'nt have these dreams for any one else, just swim, then only the lucky few!!! so to any new swimmers, sit back watch, listen and learn from some on here that KNOW what the hell they are talking about, you know who u r, if not its your life. !!!! !!!!!!
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