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Old 2003-07-29, 01:59
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A few years back one of my CIA handlers forwarded me these plans from the Langley Virginia USA headquarters.

I thought I would share them with the less fortunate.

THE FOUR WINDS SHOTGUN

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This is the simplest, safest, cheapest 12 gauge

shotgun ever devised. It was used in the Philippines

against the Japanese and was known as the "Slam-Bang."

Anyone can get the parts and make it in a

couple of hours.

If used outside the home it can be disassembled

in seconds, its parts thrown in every direction, hence

the name, "Four Winds." It can be fired several times

a minute and has a moderate kick. Loaded, it weighs

about 21/4 pounds. Basic cost, under $5.00.

It is made of common, galvanized plumbing pipe,

bought from any large hardware store, plumbing

supply or even junkyard. To make it you need a 1 inch

cap, 6 inches of 1 inch pipe, threaded on one end and

10 Inches of 3/4 inch pipe. Then you need a 1 inch

dowel, a No. 16 nail, a 1 1/8 inch circle of thin

cardboard and some duct tape.

Gun with safety tape. Shells. Primer section.

Tools and various items you need are a metal

cutting hacksaw, a sheet of coarse emery cloth, and

some Super-Glu Gel, all gotten at any hardware store,

cheaply.

First buy a foot of 3/4 inch pipe. If you buy only

a foot you should cut the two extra inches off,

yourself. It takes only about five minutes per cut.

Having them cut costs 75 cents per cut.

1 inch dowel

Thin cardboard

Then buy 6 inches of 1 inch pipe. If it is scrap pipe

it may already be threaded. If not, have them thread

it, but only at one end. Then buy a 1 inch pipe cap.

There's no reason anyone should suspect you of

anything, even if you buy everything at one hardware

store, although you might buy the 3/4 inch pipe at

another store. But if you should buy even four feet of

3/4 inch pipe, four caps and have four 6 inch lengths

of 1 inch pipe cut and threaded and the clerk should

ask what it was for, you might tell him your brother-in-

law is making some sort of metal table.

If the pipes are cut for you, make sure they are

reamed at the cuts. Otherwise there will be a heavy lip

at the cut, which doesn't happen when cut with a

hacksaw. You can get this lip off with a rounded file

or just cut 1/16 off with your hacksaw. You don't

want a deep ream at the shell end. The 12 gauge lip

should rest on the natural lip of the 3/4 inch pipe.

Otherwise it might sink into the reamed portion and

be a little harder to get out after being fired.

When you have the two pipes of proper lengths,

insert the 3/4 into the 1 inch pipe. It will probably

stick. You want it to slide through every time with no

sticking or slowing. For this you need to make your

own reamer.

Cut 7 or 8 inches from your 1 inch dowel. Then cut

a piece 5 x 3 1/16 inches from the sheet of emery

cloth.

The 1 inch dowel I bought was actually 15/16 of

an inch thick and my 1 inch pipe had an inside

diameter of 1 1/16 inches. When you buy your dowel

take the 6 inch pipe and make sure the dowel goes in

with some space to spare. If the dowel fits exactly, it's

too big and you'll have to choose the next size down.

Regardless, wrap the emery cloth around the

dowel and mark it where it meets. Then cut off about

5 inches. Next, take the Super-Glue Gel and quickly

squeeze a line down the length of the emery cloth.

Quickly put the emery cloth along one end of the

dowel and press evenly. Use gloves, as any glue on the

fingers will make them stick. After about 30 seconds

the cloth will be stuck tight and you can wrap it

around until it meets. Then quickly squeeze another

line of glue down the unglued side and press it up

against the other side. You might quickly put several

large rubber bands the length of the emery cloth to

make it set evenly.

Now you have a reamer without peer. Just rub it

in and out of the 1 inch pipe along the sides a few.times to get rid of any burrs or uneven areas. Try the

3/4 pipe and if it won't fall through without slowing,

do it again until you have it fail-safe.

If the fault is with the 3/4 inch pipe, a few good

rubs with the emery cloth on the dowel on any outside

protruberances will even it off.

When it's done its job the reamer makes a dandy

knife sharpener. Put it in your kitchen drawer. A

couple of swipes down each side of the blade will keep

your kitchen knives as good as new.

When you have the 1 inch pipe properly reamed,

you make the hammer. First cut a half inch piece of

the dowel. Choose a drill the same width as the No. 16

nail and drill a hole through the exact center of the

dowel piece.

3/4 Inch pipe. 1 inch pipe. Reamer. Hammer. Cardboard. Cap.

With your hacksaw, cut the nail 5/8 of an inch

past the head. Then cut a 1 1/8 inch wide circle of thin

cardboard and with the nail point, punch a hole in its

middle. Push the nail section through the dowel hole

and push the cardboard over its end with the rough

side on top. Then push the hammer unit into the cap,

cardboard side up. The cardboard is to keep the dowel

and hammer in the cap. When you've fired it, If you

feel the need to disassemble, just pick the unit out by

the nail with your fingernails and flick it away.

Screw the cap on, put a 12 gauge shell in the 3/

4 inch pipe, put the 3/4 inch pipe in the 1 inch pipe

land it's ready to fire. Well, not quite ready, maybe. If

you load it in your car and put it under your seat or

load it in your home and put it near the door, fine. But

If you're going to carry it around before using it, you

need to make it fail-safe.

First, cut a piece of Scotch Tape a little over 11/

2 inches down the middle. Take one half and put it

across the middle of the shell over the primer and

down both sides of the pipe. This will keep the shell

from sliding out of the pipe when it's pulled out

preparatory to firing.

Next you have to make sure it doesn't go off if you

drop it. To make it fail-safe for a klutz, cut four inches

of duct tape. Then fold one inch onto the tape to make

a finger hold. Next, pull out the 3/4 inch pipe so the

gun is 12 inches long. Then put the tape over where

the two pipes meet and press it down firmly. This

doesn't go all around but it doesn't need to. I held it

6 feet off the floor and dropped it and it held. When

ready to fire, just grasp the folded over section and

pull it off. Less than a second.

I'll bet while reading this you've been worrying

about testing the gun. And testing is critical. You

should never make a weapon and expect to test it

when the time comes. Anyhow, testing this, or any

other Improvised firearm can be done safely and

simply.

You just cut through the shell, past the metal part

with your hacksaw. Then pick out the wadding over

the powder and pour it out. Next you put the primer

part in the 3/4 inch pipe and put that in the 1 inch

pipe. Then rest its mouth on a pillow and slam it

home. There will be a pop that may be heard across

the room, but not through the walls.

If it's a regular bullet you're making a test with,

just pull out the bullet and pour out the powder.

There's no need for noise or danger.

So here's a weapon, handy, concealable, devastat-ing.

In the event that you should use it in a semi-public

place and might be caught with it, get rid of it

immediately after firing. First take out the 3/4 inch

pipe, strip off the Scotch tape and throw the pipe and

shell in opposite directions. Then unscrew the cap

and toss the 6 inch pipe. Now pick out the hammer

unit and throw it and the cap in opposite directions.

Follow this drill a few times and you can do it in five.

seconds. Then go on about your business.

If you should be found at the scene after you've

disposed of the weapon, just say it was a drive-by

shooting. There is no possibility that anyone would

look for, find, or connect the loose parts to any

shooting. There are no ballistics or powder residue on

the hands, as with a revolver. If used to defend your

home, the disassembled parts spread around your

home would not be noted. No weapon, no charge.

Just in case you recently came here from the

moon, ownership of this weapon is Illegal. But having

the various components spread around your home,

ready to be put together when the time comes, is not

actionable. Also. it's better to be judged by 12 than

carried by 6.

When choosing a box of shotgun shells at a gun

show, sporting goods store or Wal-Mart, you have a

choice of several lengths of shell and loads. The most.common Is 2 3/4 Inches long. Common lethal buck-shot

loads are: 00= .32 caliber, 9 in the 2 3/4 inch, 15

in the 3 inch, and 18 in the 3 1/2 inch. Buckshot 0=

1.30 caliber, 12 in the 2 3/4 inch. For the No. 1

buckshot, which I think has .22 caliber pellets is 16

in the 2 3/4 inch.

I would choose the 2 3/4 inch shell with 12 .30

caliber pellets, but any of the above would be fantas-tic.

This Is a close-up weapon, but then again, has a

hell of a spread, due to the shortness of the barrel.

One shot toward several opponents would be better

than any semi-automatic.
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Old 2003-07-29, 02:11
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It would kick like a mule, but otherwise it should work.

When testing this, your first shot should never be in your hand, becuase there is not telling if the pipe can stand the pressures involved with the shell going off. After the test fire, look for strech marks, and if there arent any it should be safe to fire a few more times.

BTW, I would just go with the 12 inch barrel. The longer the barrel the farther the pellets penitrate, so you want as long of a barrel as you can get, but short enough to be easily conceiled.
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Old 2003-07-29, 02:44
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no matter what people say there just never is any safe home made gun ..

-warweed12
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Old 2003-07-29, 02:45
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Why not go for a 19" barrel so its legal. Shotguns are required by law to have at least an 18" barrel. Also, by law, you are legally allowed to make a firearm with the exceptions being automatic weapons. You cant start mass production, or sell them without BAFTE permisison for that design, but you can make guns for yourself. So as long as your homemade firearm has a legal barrel length, what are they going to do? Or are there seperate laws concerning zip guns of which I am unaware?
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Old 2003-07-29, 03:05
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quote:Originally posted by warweed12:

no matter what people say there just never is any safe home made gun ..

-warweed12
I agee with that.
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Old 2003-07-30, 08:13
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this is on the border of bad idea's and DIY lol



It's not something i'd try though
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Old 2003-07-30, 09:24
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I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. Homemade guns are dangerous. You can also make a shortgun out of a flare gun, as they can accomodate 12 ga. shells quite easily.
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Old 2003-07-30, 17:45
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quote:Originally posted by warweed12:

no matter what people say there just never is any safe home made gun ..

-warweed12
I disagree, but most people just don't have the tools and equipment to make a safe one. So in the broader sense, you are right.
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Old 2003-07-30, 19:09
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I disagree, but most people just don't have the tools and equipment to make a safe one. So in the broader sense, you are right.
very true .. but in most sences home made guns are not safe



i have mad a .22 cal hand gun at my school ... lol in shop class that i have shot over 3200 rounds + with out any problems i just clean the barrel and oil it and such it is a very simple design ..
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Old 2003-07-30, 19:55
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by warweed12:

very true .. but in most sences home made guns are not safe



i have mad a .22 cal hand gun at my school ... lol in shop class that i have shot over 3200 rounds + with out any problems i just clean the barrel and oil it and such it is a very simple design ..
Cool, can you post a picture or a drawing of it please.

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Old 2003-07-30, 21:28
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quote:Cool, can you post a picture or a drawing of it please.

-I second that, put up a photo somewhere.

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Old 2003-07-31, 02:10
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The text is by Kurt Saxon, I have it in a .pdf form with several pictures. God I'm an ebook information pimp. As usual I'll send it to anyone who asks nicely but would prefer to trade.

I would not trust a home made firearm. At all. But I still find them interesting. And if you guys truly want me to I can copy the images from the pdf and put them on my remote image host account. I'm such a nice guy, why is everyone a dick to me?

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Old 2003-07-31, 02:26
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quote:Originally posted by cross:

The text is by Kurt Saxon, I have it in a .pdf form with several pictures. God I'm an ebook information pimp. As usual I'll send it to anyone who asks nicely but would prefer to trade.

I would not trust a home made firearm. At all. But I still find them interesting. And if you guys truly want me to I can copy the images from the pdf and put them on my remote image host account. I'm such a nice guy, why is everyone a dick to me?

cross-one@ziplip.com

Wow I didn't know he designed stuff for the CIA !
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Old 2003-07-31, 02:38
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I am also very interested in seeing pictures and designs for a .22 pistol. It is rare to find someone with a pistol design that lasts more than 2 or 3 shots.
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Old 2003-07-31, 03:32
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You could make a 9mm SMG from home step by step instructions, over 80 pages worth, can be found in the book "Homemade Expedient Firearms; the 9mm SMG" which I have scanned on my site.

Link is here (http://the-stalker.150m.com/page1.htm), I am such an attention whore, plugging my own page. But at least I provide good info occasionally

EDIT; Being the dumbass I am I screwed up the link to my own site.

[This message has been edited by The_Stalker (edited 07-31-2003).]
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Old 2003-07-31, 04:54
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quote:Originally posted by dangerousdude:

Wow I didn't know he designed stuff for the CIA !

You want to see the .pdf?
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Old 2003-07-31, 05:46
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quote:Originally posted by cross:

You want to see the .pdf?

Who is he ?, your correct he authored it.
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Old 2003-07-31, 07:38
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quote:Originally posted by warweed12:

no matter what people say there just never is any safe home made gun ..

-warweed12

what if you live in a gun making factory lol
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Old 2003-07-31, 07:44
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Oh man... That's it. Now I have to go out to the garage and build a machine gun.

Oh, and can you please put up the .22 design? And a picture is always cool.

.22 rounds are a thousand times easier to obtain than 9mm rounds. Everyone I know here has a bloody crate of them sitting on the dash of their pickup truck.
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Old 2003-07-31, 11:18
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There is a PDF of Sten submachine gun plans posted on the web, has been for a long time. Google knows where. ....The Sten is one of the simplest "full-featured" guns you can make, but it is NOT a one-afternoon project.

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