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Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum.

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Old 2007-03-06, 05:59
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I would like to seriously consider a hobby in pyrotechnics. I have a job and no bills, and a desire to learn. I've done smoke with KNO3 and sugar, and have played with enough flash and black powder to learn my lessons. What would be a good next step?

Logical and serious answers would really be appreciated.
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Old 2007-03-06, 06:05
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Basic nitrations Nitrocellulose maybe a small small AP synth
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Old 2007-03-06, 09:07
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I found nitrocellulose and nitrostarch give you a good feel for doing nitration’s and AP however controversial it can be here is good to get a feel for handling HE. Also APAN with an AP cap just to get the basic idea of a train.

Still do some nitrations first I found it a really good way to learn the basics.

Oh and plenty of research!
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Old 2007-03-06, 14:42
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Some shells, rockets, fountains.

Shame on you two for sending him straight to HEs.
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Old 2007-03-06, 18:41
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quote:Originally posted by blinky04:

Some shells, rockets, fountains.

Shame on you two for sending him straight to HEs.
Depends what he wants to do, I assumed he wanted to go on the HE.

It depends on your tastes really, I personally prefer LE to HE but im experimenting with HE at the moment to get a feel for handling explosives and the chemistry.

Maybe if the OP told us what he was interestd in doing next?

But you are right some stars and rockets would be my personal choice for the next step.
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Old 2007-03-06, 19:47
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This is where you branch for your next project really, its either Rockets, shells, roman candles, starmines (pure pyro) or High Explosives.

Depending on the chemicals that you can acquire I would say either a small Organic peroxide synth or a secondary nitration (e.g. like nitrocellulose that has already been suggested)

It's up to you, at the moment I am concentrating on:

HMTD very fun, probably just because I'm actually managing to synth something

1/2" Rockets also very fun, but more so firing them than making them IMO

Shells yet again fun, but its a bugger carrying around the tube and the lift powder and then setting them all up

[This message has been edited by Von Bass (edited 03-06-2007).]
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Old 2007-03-06, 20:16
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Have any of you guys noticed its a hell of a lot easier to get chems for HE than it is LE OTC?! I managed to fulfil an 8 item long shopping list in town yesterday (Paid in cash and no suspicious purchases of course!)

I did a few basic nitration’s before I attempted any organic peroxides and I think that helps a lot, it’s the patients and accuracy that helps you learn I think.

Yesterday I made some intrastate for the hell of it and some HTMD. I was really surprised at the ease of synthesis and yield of HTMD compared to AP.

But yeah as been said try a few nitration’s its fun, interesting and gives you a good feel for some of the basics.

God Im repeating myself now, Im pretty bored!
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Old 2007-03-07, 02:24
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Thanks for the input so far.

I defanently will try some nitrations, and maybe some shells. As for rocketry, not my thing. Research I will continue
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Old 2007-03-07, 03:29
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Get a copy of The Chemistry of Powder and Explosives. COPAE. That can help you decide on what you are interested in, then go from there.
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Old 2007-03-07, 04:01
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quote:Originally posted by blinky04:

Some shells, rockets, fountains.

Shame on you two for sending him straight to HEs.
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