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Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum.

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Old 2003-08-02, 18:06
Slithzerikai Slithzerikai is offline
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Default Quick question about MEKPAN

How much confinement does MEKPAN need to detonate from about 10g of AP? I'm making another RPG, this one will be more powerful.
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Old 2003-08-03, 23:39
Slithzerikai Slithzerikai is offline
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Default Re: Quick question about MEKPAN

Bump!
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Old 2003-08-03, 23:53
john_doe_pyro john_doe_pyro is offline
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Default Re: Quick question about MEKPAN

About how much MEKPAN are we talking here? I personally dont like to use bulk primarys, now I use secondaries(NC moastly) with a minimal amount of primary.

[This message has been edited by john_doe_pyro (edited 08-03-2003).]
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Old 2003-08-04, 03:17
Dystrophy Dystrophy is offline
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Default Re: Quick question about MEKPAN

Hey slith, have you ever played the Exile/Avernum games?
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Old 2003-08-04, 03:22
TheMightyGoat TheMightyGoat is offline
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Default Re: Quick question about MEKPAN

Hmm... I see no one has answered his question.

I'm certainly not going to break that trend.
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Old 2003-08-04, 03:41
IcEColdPlaYA IcEColdPlaYA is offline
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Default Re: Quick question about MEKPAN

I dont think it would be too much, since MEKP is a powerful sensitizer, and with 10 grams of AP to back it up, I wouldnt think you would need much more than the 1/8 wall paper tube.
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Old 2003-08-04, 03:50
Slithzerikai Slithzerikai is offline
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Default Re: Quick question about MEKPAN

quote:Originally posted by Dystrophy:

Hey slith, have you ever played the Exile/Avernum games?

That's where I got the name from.

Thanks for all the help people!

This new RPG is going to be basically a flying pipe charge. The sequence of detonations will go like this:

Mercury fulminate shotgun primer --> pen tube with pressed AP --> >200g of MEKPAN. All housed inside a 3/4' long 1.5" SCH 40 PVC pipe. I'll be standing behind a cinder block wall to launch it, of course.

[This message has been edited by Slithzerikai (edited 08-04-2003).]
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Old 2003-08-04, 03:52
deadsexy deadsexy is offline
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Default Re: Quick question about MEKPAN

GENTLE JESUS! That is going to be sweet, please becareful and for god sakes tape that shit.

What is the propellant?

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Old 2003-08-04, 07:04
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As long as you have a high enough % of MEKP in your AN, that much (200g) could easily be detonated in a plastic bag.
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Old 2003-08-04, 16:44
Slithzerikai Slithzerikai is offline
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Default Re: Quick question about MEKPAN

quote:Originally posted by deadsexy:

What is the propellant?

I'm still thinking about it right now. Do you think the BP composition used in Estes rockets would do the trick?
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Old 2003-08-04, 17:24
Slithzerikai Slithzerikai is offline
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Default Re: Quick question about MEKPAN

http://www.geocities.com/fire_pillar/rpg2.html
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Old 2003-08-04, 22:35
deadsexy deadsexy is offline
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Default Re: Quick question about MEKPAN

You probably could use the Estes rocket BP, but I think it would take forever to get it out. I would make my own and then for sure test it out on a test container that is the same weight of the charge that you plan to use. Btw nice artwork, that plan looks good.

I am not sure how much BP you should use, but it looks like your charge will weigh about 240 grams or more. I dont know much about lift charges but someone else will know.

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Old 2003-08-04, 22:57
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Default Re: Quick question about MEKPAN

i would nto rely on primer based RPG i also am not sure of your overal weight so i am not sure if estes will do the trick... i would use Aerotecs or possibly Econo-Jet's as a engine more or less an F20-0 ... i would use some sort of electronics or fuse delays and not impac senstive explosive .. but if your gun ho on this i would look into a "Blasting Cap" Made out of Armstrongs mix with a AP primary and a NC Secondary with MEKPAN Filler ... but if you really into the RPG another idea would be to go to a gun shop and by a couple of nipples and some caps for the nipples and have it mounted in front



"My personel design for a RPG would by low weight Fiber Glass tubing (made by me) with a nose cone of some sorts that has a nipple screwed in place on the front... it would then have a 4 engine motor mount in the back all angled at the exact angle (have not done the math) the filler would be inside the engines would be in th back (pluged engines of course more likly a D12-P) the blasting cpa would be mounted up front with the filler and such the desired RPG would by launched from a cunstom tube (like a bazzoka) and the it would spin due to off center motors causing it to spin stablelize which would be best when dealing with forward weight .. the device on impact would strike the primer send a shower of sparks down the nipple hit the AP the AP would detonate the NC and the NC inturn would Detonate the MEKPAN thus an RPG lol i dunno if this would work the best but what the hell why not ?"
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Old 2003-08-05, 00:22
Slithzerikai Slithzerikai is offline
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Default Re: Quick question about MEKPAN

I have 283 grams of NH4NO3 to make into MEKPAN. How much MEKP should I add to make it able to detonate in a thin cardboard tube(much safer than SCH 40 PVC)?
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Old 2003-08-05, 00:34
john_doe_pyro john_doe_pyro is offline
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Default Re: Quick question about MEKPAN

roughly 28ml(I think)should do the trick but if your doutful you can always use more.
 
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