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Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum.

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Old 2003-07-27, 10:28
Shadow88 Shadow88 is offline
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Default Kmno4 Mix

Has anyone tried melting kmno4 (Potassium Permanganate) and sucrose in the same way and ratios as the smoke mix? I have, and I end up with a caramel-brown chunk that quickly solidifies and gives off a big purplish flame when ignited.

However, I get so many accidental ignitions its not funny (my kitchen nearly burnt down, now I do it outside but it's still kinda dnagerous). If anyone whose done it could please tell me a safer way to melt the two compounds, I'd love to hear it.
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Old 2003-07-27, 10:37
Tangaroa Tangaroa is offline
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Default Re: Kmno4 Mix

Thanks for the idea.



I do know that if you dissolve them in water they will decompose. Could possibly use wax or hot glue gun stick.
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Old 2003-07-28, 04:28
orangejuice orangejuice is offline
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I don't know if 'double boiling' is the proper term,

but if you would put the two chemicals into a beaker submerged in boiling water on a hot plate, you could control the temperature a lot easier.

Checking the flash point of KMnO4 might help.
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Old 2003-07-28, 04:40
Starcraft Starcraft is offline
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Mixing those mixtures arin't very safe. KMnO4 compostions are not that stable.
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Old 2003-07-28, 05:32
Halifax Halifax is offline
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Lol i cant belive you did that, at least not inside, kmno4 aint the best thing to heat with a fuel... Not a flame just a warning for the safty of others...



~H
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Old 2003-07-28, 06:32
static_firefly static_firefly is offline
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Default Re: Kmno4 Mix

I wouldnt melt the sugars but if you do by dextros sugar. they sell it at woolworths in the homebrew section. i believe it has a lower melting point.
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Old 2003-07-28, 07:00
Shadow88 Shadow88 is offline
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Ah thanks for that guys.

Its not particularly usefull compound, but I've been expermenting with kmno4 based-compositions for quite some time now...
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Old 2003-07-28, 08:15
And1129 And1129 is offline
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If you dissolve the mix in 99% alcohol, and then dry it out you can make pellets or chunks which you can throw in water or light on fire.
 
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