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| Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum. |
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#1
 2003-07-22, 04:34
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help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
does anyone know the ratio between diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer explosives? its cheap and easy access (and no, i dont plan on harming/ detroying anything or anyone) anyone know?
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#2
 2003-07-22, 04:44
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XTheWhitePonyX 
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
A good ratio is 50/50. The common name for NH4NO3 sensitized diesel is ANFO by the way.
And you do know that this will require a pretty heavy shockwave from a primary and probably a booster charge in order to detonate, right?
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#3
 2003-07-22, 04:47
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
listen, this one has worked, so dont start assuming its bullshit, it was given to me by a farmer (yes, a farmer) who blew tree stumps out of the ground with it. and I, feeling that it could be useful knowledge in the future, wanted to know if anyone else has tried it
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#4
 2003-07-22, 04:54
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
and yes, im going to need a blasting cap for it, not sure what though.
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#5
 2003-07-22, 04:58
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
is it just me or does it seem odd that a farmer woul have used ANFO had access to blasting caps but could not provide a consistent ratio or any other information ??
a pretty hefty AP charge should do it but i wouldn't even try it by the sounds of it you sound like you re quite new trying to go about your information gather as to gain info but not to alert others my advise to this is to stand back watch read and ask questions for a long while and then once your truly ready and under stand the concepts a little better then give it a try
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#6
 2003-07-22, 05:02
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deadsexy 
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
And a booster. What are you going to use for the booster?
You need the blasting cap to set off the booster and the booster to set off the secondary(I think ANFO is secondary, pretty sure.) I haven't done this before so anyone correct me if I am wrong. But what I suggest you do for the blasting cap should be about 2 grams AP(If your using MEKP as the booster you might be able to use a large flash salute). Then your booster could be MEKP, I have no idea how much. Then these should be enough to set off your ANFO. Of course your blasting cap should be next to the booster or in it and the booster should be in the secondary. And depending on how much ANFO you are using it will have to be contained.
[Doh, Warweed beat me to it. Yeah here is some info but if I were in your shoes I wouldn't walk outside and blow myself up. So start reading and researching. For AWHILE.]
[This message has been edited by deadsexy (edited 07-22-2003).]
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#7
 2003-07-22, 05:10
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
thanks dead sexy, sounds good. And as for warweed, my friend (the farmer) was explaining to another one of my friends.(applying to become a cop, and about one of the tests which was identifying a pipe bomb, but anyways)he was explaining that most people used ammonia instead of diesel, which is a pretty stupid idea because its so unstable, and how some people used a metal pipe(that also being a dumb idea, too risky to set of a spark and blow off your hand)but the majority of people used plastic pipes. bu yea, he never specified on the ratio, he only said "Don't be a dumb fuck, use diesel"(not accountable for mis-phrasing) hahaa
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#8
 2003-07-22, 13:00
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It burns 
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
An ANFO pipebomb, that sounds quite unlikely!
But besides that are you saying it is possible to use ammonia intead of diesel to sensitive AN, thats new to me.
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#9
 2003-07-22, 14:28
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
Be careful about mentioning ANFO. 700 pounds of it was stolen from a plant in California about 3 days ago, so the feds are probably going to be posting here at totse for a while.
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#10
 2003-07-22, 21:18
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DavidThePyro 
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
Why the hell would you steal ANFO - it's only the easiest HE ever to make. Damn, anyway, don't be a screwin with the ANFO when you don't know what you're doing. Go look for info on a few webpages..
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#11
 2003-07-22, 21:27
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
well yea, thats a given man.
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#12
 2003-07-22, 21:42
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
http://www.skepticfiles.org/new/201doc.htm
there...a ratio of 94% ammonium nitrate to 6% fuel oil (ratio it by weight)
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#13
 2003-07-22, 23:14
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great glavin 
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
your gonna need a really good blasting cap to detonate it.
woo hoo 300 posts
[This message has been edited by great glavin (edited 07-22-2003).]
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#14
 2003-07-23, 04:59
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evolution160 
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
you dont need a cap to set off pure (re-crystalized) AN add 1p al powder to desensitize the AN and also make it burn hotter like diesel would do. then make some lead azide or fluminate and add 1p to the mix
now all you need is a go 'ol visco to detonate this motherfucker!
AL powder- 1p
lead azide/fluminate- 1p
AN- 8p
I've never actually made this+ don't exactly know how sensitive it is but heard it works damn good. be careful!
[This message has been edited by evolution160 (edited 07-23-2003).]
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#15
 2003-07-23, 12:44
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Dirty_sandches 
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
Yeah that shit is powerful but you have to watch out watch charge you use be and my friends blew up a coppers letter box with it and they called csi so be careful what containers you put it in make sure they are not traceable
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#16
 2003-07-23, 13:07
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Slithzerikai 
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
quote:Originally posted by evolution160:
I've never actually made this+ don't exactly know how sensitive it is but heard it works damn good. be careful!
Who told you that, the Jolly Roger in the ACB?
Anyway... I was thinking of MEKPAN to detonate it, maybe?
[This message has been edited by Slithzerikai (edited 07-23-2003).]
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#17
 2003-07-23, 17:01
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evolution160 
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
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[This message has been edited by evolution160 (edited 07-24-2003).]
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#18
 2003-07-23, 19:17
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Monkeychunks 
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Re: help with diesel and 40-0-0 fertilizer
quote:Originally posted by DavidThePyro:
Why the hell would you steal ANFO - it's only the easiest HE ever to make. Damn, anyway, don't be a screwin with the ANFO when you don't know what you're doing. Go look for info on a few webpages..
Whoops. I meant to say they stole 700 pounds of ammounium nitrate. It was fourteen 50lb bags they stole.
They showed a thing about ANFO on Ripley's Beleive it or not(or one of those shows like it) about a week ago, and mentioned that it has 1/2 the power of a uranium-based bomb and was supposed to be kept a secret from the public. They showed some blast testing with it too.
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