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Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum.

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Old 2003-07-20, 13:35
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I've been making black powder cobs for a while, which is sufficiently entertaining for me, but I've run out of co2 canisters and I won't be able to buy anymore for awhile since I only have $-70 (I owe someone $70). So, any ideas for what would make a good casing for black powder that I might be able to find around the house? I know metal has dangerous shrapnel, but I'd prefer something metal because I only have bp and no flash or anything.
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Old 2003-07-20, 17:12
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You could give some to me. Rocket egines aren't cheap you know. I've got another four years before I can buy BP.

Peace Out,

Evil_Tree
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Old 2003-07-20, 17:52
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Black powder makes a nice lift for gasoline fireballs, or FAEs.

If casings is what you're in need of, you can actually make some pretty decent paper casings that will work well with BP from household products like paper towel rolls, grocery bags, etc.

Check Krimzon Pyro or ICP's site for good info on how to do that.
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Old 2003-07-21, 19:00
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quote:Originally posted by Evil_Tree:

You could give some to me. Rocket egines aren't cheap you know. I've got another four years before I can buy BP.

Actually, I'm only 15 myself but my dad will buy black powder or flash for me (provided I pay for it).

I don't suppose anyone has any idea where I might find empty CO2 canisters? I don't think there's such a thing as a bb gun range... maybe a paintball battlefield? Some of the small paintballs guns use those tiny canisters instead of the larger refillable ones. I don't think that's very likely though.

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Old 2003-07-21, 21:16
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Whipped cream bottles, most soda fountains (at mcdonalds, the just keep the pop full of CO2). Just look around, or ask friends for their empty CO2 canisters. Right now I have about 50 empty canisters, and I usually give them to a friend becuase I have nothing else to do with them.

Just try paper casings. It works if you know how to make them. XTheWhitePonyX posted some pictures a while back of what a black powder salute did to a pop can, so metal is not your only choice.
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Old 2003-07-21, 22:26
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I've got 4 pounds of BP... i know your pain... hmmm maybe ill launch a basketball out of a homemade cannon....

(and thats how he won a darwin....)
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Old 2003-07-21, 22:26
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Yeah I remember that now.

http://www.geocities.com/marrypoppins_smokescrack/BP_Salute/device2.txt

http://www.geocities.com/marrypoppins_smokescrack/BP_Salute/pieces_line2.txt



The salute contained about 2g of FFF bp, which is not the fastest burning black powder. I learned how to make the casing and plugs on KP, BB, and ICP's site. As you can see, it worked quite well.

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Old 2003-07-21, 22:37
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what topic might that be, ps i have some new explosives pics to show as soon as i load them!!!!
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Old 2003-07-21, 23:42
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well man i have 2 words for you carolina firecraker

whats that you might ask?

what you do is take an empty coffee cann fill it wil gun powder and put in under a cars fuel cell (make sure you have a long enough fuse to get the hell outta there)

well ive put in my 2 cents goodnight *goes to bed*
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Old 2003-07-21, 23:57
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^^ Idiot

You could use pill bottles, gatorade bottles, or the can your black powder came in.

Or, you could just save your black powder until you do get money to do whatever you want with it.

rM

[This message has been edited by rebMA (edited 07-23-2003).]
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Old 2003-07-22, 01:09
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I dont even know how to make cobs that work, mine only goes pfuitt. I've always rolled my own from aluminium beercans, there's no shrapnell (correct spelling?) that will hurt you and if you do it right you get a nice report. The how to part is up to you but a little tip along the way, cut of the top and bottom with a pair of scissors. Then cut the aluminium in the desired size. Roll it upp tight around a broomstick or other round object and put som duct-tape around it. Hope it helps.
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Old 2003-07-22, 01:22
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quote:Originally posted by andyboy:

always rolled my own from aluminium beercans.

??? I thought the purpose of rolling your own casings was to AVOID using metal ones?
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Old 2003-07-22, 01:46
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quote:Originally posted by bunnymasterx:

well man i have 2 words for you carolina firecraker

whats that you might ask?

what you do is take an empty coffee cann fill it wil gun powder and put in under a cars fuel cell (make sure you have a long enough fuse to get the hell outta there)

well ive put in my 2 cents goodnight *goes to bed*

One word for you...

ASSCLOWN (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=assclown)
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Old 2003-07-22, 04:45
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quote:Originally posted by XTheWhitePonyX:

??? I thought the purpose of rolling your own casings was to AVOID using metal ones?

actually this is interesting... i never thought there was a use for an empty soda can. Yes your not supposed to use metal everyone knows that, its just what you do and how safe you make the situation.
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Old 2003-07-22, 04:47
XTheWhitePonyX XTheWhitePonyX is offline
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quote:Originally posted by great glavin:

actually this is interesting... i never thought there was a use for an empty soda can. Yes your not supposed to use metal everyone knows that, its just what you do and how safe you make the situation.

Yeah, exactly how the hell do you roll those and make endplugs for them, andyboy?
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Old 2003-07-22, 04:57
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sand the ends, and use wood glue/sawdust mix, also i got a question i am getting lazy and im gonna start buying BP from a gun shop trough my dad, and do the shop owners ever get interested what you need it for. you think they will ask questions?
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Old 2003-07-22, 05:08
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quote:Originally posted by coldwarr2000:

sand the ends, and use wood glue/sawdust mix, also i got a question i am getting lazy and im gonna start buying BP from a gun shop trough my dad, and do the shop owners ever get interested what you need it for. you think they will ask questions?



I did the exact same thing, but to make it even more suspicious, I bought 15 feet of cannon fuse to go along with the black powder. The attendant asked my dad what he was going to do with it, and he said, honestly "Well, I have a 15 year old son who likes blowing things up. He's going to do something with this..." The woman then shared a story of the last person who bought black powder and fuse for their son, and how the son ended up blowing up a toilet in the high school. She didn't give a damn. She sold him the stuff without a problem.
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Old 2003-07-22, 06:07
XTheWhitePonyX XTheWhitePonyX is offline
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quote:Originally posted by coldwarr2000:

i am getting lazy and im gonna start buying BP from a gun shop trough my dad, and do the shop owners ever get interested what you need it for. you think they will ask questions?



YES! Gun store owners are OFTEN suspicious. They'll most likely ask you "What kinda gun you gonna use this in?" And it's a good idea to know which kinds of guns various types of BP are commonly used in.

ELEPHANT BLACK POWDER -



FFg - Mainly used in shotguns and rifles over a .54 calibre.

FFFg - Used in .50 calibre rifles and below.

FFFFg - Used for priming flintlocks, probably the best for salutes or expolosives.

GOEX BLACK POWDER -

FFg - Used in .40, .45, .50, .54 and .58 calibre rifles.

FFFg - Used in .36 and .32 black powder handguns. (I told him I had a .36 calibre replica remington revolver)

FFFFg - Flintlock priming only. (Try telling them you have a Thompson Firestorm or a Austin Halleck .50 calibre flintlock rifle. If you plan on buying more than one pound of priming powder you'd better throw in a pound of Fg powder as well so your story will be consistent.)



EDIT: TMG, no offense, but that was a DUMBASSED thing your dad said to that clerk. Lucky for you he happened to get an amoral clerk, otherwise he would have had his ass handed to him.

[This message has been edited by XTheWhitePonyX (edited 07-22-2003).]
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Old 2003-07-22, 09:43
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i think that bmx bike pegs make very good casings , if you have got enough BP....
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Old 2003-07-22, 09:56
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I doubt BP could explode a steel peg... but then if it did i'd hope my eyes wern't close!
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Old 2003-07-22, 11:04
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quote:Originally posted by TheMightyGoat:

Actually, I'm only 15 myself but my dad will buy black powder or flash for me (provided I pay for it).

I don't suppose anyone has any idea where I might find empty CO2 canisters? I don't think there's such a thing as a bb gun range... maybe a paintball battlefield? Some of the small paintballs guns use those tiny canisters instead of the larger refillable ones. I don't think that's very likely though.

How about a supermarket?

I don't know what you've got over in A-fucking-merica, and I really don't care, Walmart or whatever, but where I am CO2 canisters are 10 for $4. Thats about US$2.
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Old 2003-07-22, 12:56
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XTheWhitePonyX

??? I thought the purpose of rolling your own casings was to AVOID using metal ones?

The beercan ones dont produce dangerous shrapnell like other metall containers do because of the thin material used.

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Yeah, exactly how the hell do you roll those and make endplugs for them, andyboy?

I roll them around a round object in the desired size. Tape them up but leave enough to fold over the openings. Make a hole in the middle of the container for the fuse, fold and tape one end. Make a paper doweling and push it in there, fill it up and do the same on the other side.
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Old 2003-07-22, 14:02
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quote:Originally posted by XTheWhitePonyX:



EDIT: TMG, no offense, but that was a DUMBASSED thing your dad said to that clerk. Lucky for you he happened to get an amoral clerk, otherwise he would have had his ass handed to him.



Yeah, I know it was. I wasn't in the store when he bought it, but I nearly shit myself when he told me that.
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