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Backyard Ballistics This forum is dedicated to the safe teaching and responsible handling of high and low explosives. You will not find any information on how to make "bombs" or any such device(s) . Backyard ballistics will teach you the science and the art of pyrotechnics and how to manufacture and use explosives/pyrotechnics safely and responsibly. Backyard ballistics is also a haven for rocketry and pneumatic cannons. All information contained within this forum is for educational purposes ONLY. Totse does not accept responsiblity for any incident involving the use of the information contained within this forum.

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Old 2003-07-20, 01:32
Evil_Tree Evil_Tree is offline
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Default M-80's or salutes

I know this is a real newbie like question, but I'll ask it any ways. I've obtained myself some black powder (from rocket engines) and a home made tube I made from thick paper and wood glue. I don't have any visco fuse and I don't think that I can get any. How could I make a fuse from basic house hold materials? (I'm only 14 and there aren't any chem shops near me just a hardware store) What else should I use besides BP inside the thing? Do I need an oxidiser(sp)? If so, what should I use? By the way, the BP I ground up isn't that fine but isn't that rough.

Peace Out,

Evil_Tree

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Old 2003-07-20, 01:42
devoiced devoiced is offline
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Default Re: M-80's or salutes

you could cut off some match heads, get some of that paper tape, cut a length of the tape double the length that you want your fuse, then line up match heads so they are touching eachother in a line half way down the line of tape. then fold the tape over so it it covers all the match heads. then when you light one match it goes down the line lighting them all. crappy, but it works.
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Old 2003-07-20, 01:56
Evil_Tree Evil_Tree is offline
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Default Re: M-80's or salutes

Thanks devoiced! What suburb are from? I'm from Palatine.

Peace Out,

Evil_Tree

the_republican_rogue
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Old 2003-07-20, 02:20
IcEColdPlaYA IcEColdPlaYA is offline
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Default Re: M-80's or salutes

You could try blackmatch, it is just like a homemade Visco fuse. If you decide to make it, YOU MUST TEST THE BURNRATE BEFORE USING IT IN ANY DEVICE. Cut off a 1 inch peice, and light it. If it burns for 3 seconds, and you are using it in a M-80, use 3 inches of fuse, so 2 1/2 inches will stick out, giving you about 8 seconds to run away.

www.geocities.com/ng835/blackmatch.html (http://www.geocities.com/ng835/blackmatch.html)

Please be very careful with any device, and NEVER HOLD THE SALUTE IN YOUR HAND WHILE LIGHTING IT. ALWAYS LAY THE SALUTE ON THE GROUND, LIGHT THE FUSE AND RUN AWAY.
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Old 2003-07-20, 03:58
devoiced devoiced is offline
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Default Re: M-80's or salutes

im from frankfort in will county.
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Old 2003-07-20, 05:10
chicomalo chicomalo is offline
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Default Re: M-80's or salutes

Like ICP said, make blackmatch. It's a fair substitute for visco. If you can get charcoal and KNO3 (stump remover, if you must), mix that up (2/1 or 3/1 nitrate/charcoal) and use it -- save your real BP for lifts and salutes.

But, as ICP said, you MUST test the burn rate! Different batches (or even different sections of one string of match) can have VERY different burn rates. As we all know, it's best to keep your hands and fingers attached to your arm, they do come in useful sometimes.
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Old 2003-07-20, 06:41
Rat_Bastard Rat_Bastard is offline
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Default Re: M-80's or salutes

Here is some pictures of a blackmatch procedure: http://www.pyrouniverse.com/fprojects/blackmatch.htm
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Old 2003-07-20, 06:51
great glavin great glavin is offline
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Default Re: M-80's or salutes

quote:Originally posted by Evil_Tree:

Thanks devoiced! What suburb are from? I'm from Palatine.

Peace Out,

Evil_Tree

the_republican_rogue

WHAT??!?!?!?!? your from palatine???!?!?!?!?

do you go to PHS or fremd or something like that... wow the world is a small place...

If anyone wants any advice in pyro and the like instant message me on AIM: duow11

Hell since you live so damn close i might just sell you some fuse really cheap....

[This message has been edited by great glavin (edited 07-20-2003).]
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Old 2003-07-20, 13:08
Evil_Tree Evil_Tree is offline
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Fremd, I'll be a freshman this fall. Where do yo go glavin?



Peace Out,

Evil_Tree
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Old 2003-07-21, 22:23
great glavin great glavin is offline
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Default Re: M-80's or salutes

i go to PHS (as a junior), contact me if ya need any help with anything that goes boom boom. I'll even sell you supplies if i think your trustworthy (since you dont sound KEWL).

email: duow11@attbi.com

[This message has been edited by great glavin (edited 07-21-2003).]
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Old 2003-07-22, 06:43
And1Drew And1Drew is offline
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Default Re: M-80's or salutes

Hey about M-80's or any other salute that is made with flash powder, if you drop the salute or shake it up (hypothetically speaking of coarse), what would happen ?

Would it prematurely ignite and explode, or would nothing at all happen ?
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Old 2003-07-22, 06:54
deadsexy deadsexy is offline
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Most likely nothing would happen. Unless you happen to drop it in a fire. Then you run like hell and duck and cover.
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Old 2003-07-22, 07:12
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No offence but i do not thing you should mess around with things you don't know to much about as they guy thats from your city more about this and educate yourself as much as possible first
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Old 2003-07-22, 17:07
And1Drew And1Drew is offline
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Default Re: M-80's or salutes

I know, thats what I have been doing for the past 2 weeks, just on flash powder and bp, and basic chem.

I think I should be all prepared to go, but I had to make sure on a few things, just incase.
 
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