Atheists, why do you hate Christians so much, and Christians, vise versa?

[jb_mcbean]

Well?

I don't hate Christians. The only thing I even dislike is what I see as irrationality.

[redzed]

quote:Originally posted by jb_mcbean:

Well?

Cause there's lots of people who call themselves christians when in fact they are nothing at all like Christ. They have not comprehended when he announced a new commandment: "love one another"

quote:LOVE: A PARAPHRASE OF 1 CORINTHIANS 13

If I talk a lot about God and the Bible and the Church,

but I fail to ask about your needs and then help you,

I'm simply making a lot of empty religious noise.

If I graduate from theological seminary and know all the answers to

questions you'll never even think of asking,

and if I have all the degrees to prove it

and if I say I believe in God with all my heart,

and soul and strength,

and claim to have incredible answers to my prayers to show it,

but I fail to take the time to find out where you're at and what makes you/laugh and why you cry, I'm nothing.

If I sell an extra car and some of my books to raise money for some poor starving kids somewhere, and if I give my life for God's service and burn out after pouring everything I have into the work, but do it all without ever once thinking about the people, the real hurting people-the moms and dads and sons and daughters and orphans and widows and the lonely and hurting-if I pour my life into the Kingdom but forget to make it relevant to those here on earth, my energy is wasted, and so is my life.

Here is what love is like--genuine love. God's kind of love. It's

patient. It can wait. It helps others, even if they never find out who did it. Love doesn't look for greener pastures or dream of how things could be better if I just got rid of all my current commitments. Love doesn't boast. It doesn't try to build itself up to be something it isn't. Love doesn't act in a loose, immoral way. It doesn't seek to take, but it willingly gives. Love doesn't lose its cool. It doesn't turn on and off. Love doesn't think about how bad the other person is, and certainly doesn't think of how it could get back at someone. Love is grieved deeply (as God is) over the evil in this world, but it rejoices over truth.

Love comes and sits with you when you're feeling down and finds out what is wrong. It empathizes with you and believes in you. Love knows you'll come through just as God planned, and love sticks right beside you all the way. Love doesn't give up, or quit, or diminish or go home. Love keeps on keeping on, even when everything goes wrong and the feelings leave and the other person doesn't seem as special anymore. Love succeeds 100 percent of the time. That, my friend, is what real love is!

--David Sanford

Peace

I can't think of anyone I might hate, let alone hate someone who does or does not believe in God.

Personally, I have better things to do with my time.

[jb_mcbean]

I'm not a Christian BTW. I was just curious. Why have no Christians answered?

I don't beleive in god. I dig Christ, he was the man.

I feel sorry for religious people because they can't see MY truth, I may mock them and look down on them, but I don't hate anyone without getting to know them first.

Blanket hate of a whole people just because they believe different stories than you is always wrong.

[jb_mcbean]

quote:Originally posted by bitplane:

I feel sorry for religious people because they can't see MY truth, I may mock them and look down on them, but I don't hate anyone without getting to know them first.

Blanket hate of a whole people just because they believe different stories than you is always wrong.

Yes, but what right have we as atheists to look down upon them and think of them as backwards even though we shun them for the exact same mindset. Just because someone derives comfort from superstition doesn't mean we should mock them.

They just should not be allowed to try and enforce their views on us, or teach creationism as fact.

you're right, we shouldn't mock them. I can't help feeling superior to them though, and I guess the same goes the other way.. unfortunatley thats just how people work and I'm just another human being.

They feel sorry for me or mock me because I don't subscribe to their truth, and I do the same because they can't see mine.

Isn't humanity wonderful?

[redzed]

quote:Originally posted by bitplane:

you're right, we shouldn't mock them. I can't help feeling superior to them though, and I guess the same goes the other way.. unfortunatley thats just how people work and I'm just another human being.

They feel sorry for me or mock me because I don't subscribe to their truth, and I do the same because they can't see mine.

Isn't humanity wonderful?

"Relative and the absolute,

These the two truths are declared to be.

The absolute is not within the reach of intellect,

For intellect is grounded in the relative." Shantideva

In other words nobody knows the absolute truth and those who think they do are deluded.

Peace

[among_the_living]

I hate all people of religion, its just how i am, i value rationality.

Plus, religious moderates fuel the fire and provide cover for religious extremism.

None of them can back up why they hold their belief, and most don't even do as their religion commands.

Hate is irrational.

[Zman]

quote:Originally posted by jb_mcbean:

I'm not a Christian BTW. I was just curious. Why have no Christians answered?

there aren't a lot of christians on totse, or on this particular board.

I don't hate atheists. But a lot of them do seem to be just as irrational as they claim christians to be. I don't like that.

quote:Originally posted by among_the_living:

I hate all people of religion, its just how i am, i value rationality.

Plus, religious moderates fuel the fire and provide cover for religious extremism.

None of them can back up why they hold their belief, and most don't even do as their religion commands.

You lose all credibility. You speak of rationality, but yet you literally hate billions of people.

People like you, give non-religious people, such as myself, a bad name.

I hate intellectual dishonesty. I am yet to meet an intellectually honest christian, to me they seem to be mutually exclusive. Why? because an intellectually dishonest christian holds to a belief about the world that they have no justification for holding and several very good reasons for not holding that belief.

That is why.

[Some] Atheists hate Christians becuase they think Christians are idiots for having their beliefs and [some] Christians hate atheists because they think they are evil demons.

quote:[some] Christians hate atheists because they think they are evil demons.

Haha.

[flatplat]

I don't hate christians. I don't hate any religious group.

The only thing that really pisses me off is others trying to force their beliefs onto me. Discussion and debate is fine, but I can't stand people who stoop to insulting me because of my mindset and (lack of) beliefs.

quote:Originally posted by redzed:

"Relative and the absolute,

These the two truths are declared to be.

The absolute is not within the reach of intellect,

For intellect is grounded in the relative." Shantideva

In other words nobody knows the absolute truth and those who think they do are deluded.

Peace

Marvellous quote. It says exactly what I was planning to say when I opened this thread, only better.

quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

You lose all credibility. You speak of rationality, but yet you literally hate billions of people.

People like you, give non-religious people, such as myself, a bad name.

I was wondering if that might have been a joke. It's completely irrational.

I don't dislike Christians(unless they're off the extremist sort), I dislike Christianity.

I don't really hate Christians, I just think they believe what they WANT to be true, rather than where the facts lead.

Christianity in itself isn't bad at all, it's just what people do with it.

Because those other guys are idiots.

[TheMessiahComplex]

The only christians I'd say I hate are the really over the top, get in your face and annoy the hell out of you kinds.

The other group of christians, thought I cant say I hate them at all really, that I get a kick out of messing with are the half assed christians where I know more about their religion than they do. If an atheist knows more about your religion than you do, you have failed.

Atheists think Christians are stupid.

Christians think Atheists are evil.

Seriously, that's all it boils down to.

[Viraljimmy]

quote:Originally posted by redzed:

"Relative and the absolute,

These the two truths are declared to be.

The absolute is not within the reach of intellect,

For intellect is grounded in the relative."

Can't say I disagree with that.

[among_the_living]

quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

You lose all credibility. You speak of rationality, but yet you literally hate billions of people.

People like you, give non-religious people, such as myself, a bad name.

I hate billions of people...no.

I dont hate them as people, i hate their religion, and the way they blindly follow it, usually without even following its teachings.

But hate the actual people? nah.

I value the truth and rationality and im yet to meet a religious person with either of those, non-religious people dont have to sit back and go along with this moderation crap, moderation covers extremism.

[JesuitArtiste]

quote:Originally posted by Pyronos:

Atheists think Christians are evil.

Christians think Atheists are evil.

Seriously, that's all it boils down to.

Fixed.

[MilkAndInnards]

I don't hate Christians.

I hate ones that preach, and ones that try to convert me.

But I absolutely fucking hate those super fucking fanatic christians. They need their teeth punched in

*thinks of an episode of trading spouses with this super fucking fanatic fat bitch*

The same reason why 'leftists' hate 'rightists'. They're two groups on OPPOSING sides of an ideological divide.

Isn't it obvious?

I don't hate either of them.



I just hate the fan club.

[IanBoyd3]

I hate close-mindedness (NOT close minded people) because close-mindedness leads to hate.

Religions spawn close-mindedness and they have to; if your mind was truly open and for a moment you didn't just accept your religion as fact (as I used to) then (assuming reasonable intelligence and rationality) you quickly see how fast it all falls apart.

I don't care what you believe as long as you realize it is just a belief.

"I believe in God and I know I'm right 100%!"

Then it's not a belief dumbass.

I don't hate Christians. What they choose to believe in does not effect me at all. That I even respond or address anyone's faith in anything is really just effort on my part.

[boozehound420]

quote:Originally posted by specus_meretricis:

I don't hate Christians. What they choose to believe in does not effect me at all. That I even respond or address anyone's faith in anything is really just effort on my part.

pretty much sums it up for me aswell

supression/opression

Plus it's cool to be an atheist and hate Christians, duh.

Slightly less cooler to be a Wiccan and hate Christians because they're just fat lesbians anyway, but still I thought it worth mentioning.

quote:Originally posted by king koopa:

[some] Christians hate atheists because they think they are evil demons.

Winner!

I think Christianity is a rediculous thing. I hate that it has such a hold on the world, and I hate how it promotes irrational acceptance of silly lies. But I don't hate the people who believe in it. I might openly mock them (why shouldn't I?), but I definatly don't hate them. Hate is a nasty thing, and as someone said before, it is irrational.

We don't hate eachother, just some of each group are idiots and think that they know everything and that they can disprove the other when they can't. They need to just relax and respect eachother. They can have their different views, they just shouldn't attack one-another because neither can win.

We don't hate eachother, just some of each group are idiots and think that they know everything and that they can disprove the other when they can't. They need to just relax and respect eachother. They can have their different views, they just shouldn't attack one-another because neither can win.

sorry didn't mean to post same thing twice

[SHARP]

I don't hate people based on their beliefs.

I hate people based on their statements and actions, some I even want dead, but never because of what they believe.