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My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged.

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  #1   Add Mr. Tree to your ignore list  
Old 2006-12-13, 22:19
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Did he die simply because he believed the Roman government was unjust? Where does it say he died for OUR sins?
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  #2   Add THE ONLY SANE MAN to your ignore list  
Old 2006-12-13, 22:27
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After reflecting on the story of the man from nazerith(spelled wrong), I think that he let himself be executed to prove a point to his followers. The point is Love and Truth. Love your fellow man even if he doesn't love you and be true to yourself and speak only truth, even in the face of fatal concicuences. This is a point that, to me, seems lost on todays interperters of this story.......and thats very sad. I do not belive in god and I do not belive that this man from nazerith was anything but a man but I still love my life in this way.
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Old 2006-12-13, 23:08
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I don't believe he was ever a real man at all. Put that shit in your pipe and smoke it.
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Old 2006-12-13, 23:48
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how can you interpret the Bible any other way?
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Old 2006-12-14, 00:04
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Column A, B and C.

To have a go at the Romans, to redeem humanity as he probably saw it, to prove a point, and to probably try and justify his own messiah status in the eyes of the prophecies. What with the no broken bones and resurrection, etc.
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Old 2006-12-14, 01:48
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No criticism intended, but isn't dying for our sins still being a martyr? Still dying for a cause right?
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Old 2006-12-14, 05:14
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It would take more than one person, son of god or not, to make all of our sins be forgiven... It would either take an army of small children dying for them, or... Yeah the point I'm making is that even dying for something doesn't fix it.
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Old 2006-12-14, 05:18
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quote:Originally posted by Mr. Tree:

Did he die simply because he believed the Roman government was unjust? Where does it say he died for OUR sins?
What the fuck?

The Romans didn't even think he did anything wrong. The jews kept telling them to kill him until they finally gave in.
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Old 2006-12-14, 06:44
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Or maybe...just maybe...he died for his own sins.
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Old 2006-12-14, 21:54
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What the fuck?

The Romans didn't even think he did anything wrong. The jews kept telling them to kill him until they finally gave in.
Yes you're right, my mistake.

However, it still WAS the Roman gov't who gave and ultimately decided his death.
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Old 2006-12-14, 22:06
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perhaps jesus's death hadmore than 1 purpose
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Old 2006-12-14, 22:11
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more of a sacrifice i think, although he cheated wit the resurection, pussy bitch (lol)
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Old 2006-12-14, 22:12
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According to one of the scriptures (at least when you read it in the orginal Greek, not the mistranslation in the KJV), Jesus did not die on the cross.

Most of what he did do--the entrance into Jerusalem on a donkey, for instance--was engineered by the Zealots to serve their own political agenda. However, he lost a lot of their support with that "render unto Caesar" incident.
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Old 2006-12-14, 23:16
madamwench madamwench is offline
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arms can you cite that for me?
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Old 2006-12-14, 23:50
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As God is omnipotent he could save our sins himself, no need for Jesus etc. Of course, things are never that simple...
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