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My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged.

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Old 2006-12-13, 21:36
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No I'm not a regular here. But when I browse through this forum I see endless quotes being posted and then someone proving that those quotes aren't even real. So I'm wondering: who in MGCBTSOOYG has read a holy book suck as the Bible or Qu'ran?

Apologies if this has been asked before.
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Old 2006-12-13, 22:24
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*raises hand*

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Old 2006-12-13, 22:26
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I've never read it through start->finish, but sometimes quote it.
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Old 2006-12-13, 22:45
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Bible: Read in all common and some not so common versions , translated (into german/eng),studied.Also in Koine blah blah blah (I studied for the priesthood).

Quran: Read

Book of Mormon/Pearl: Read

E.G.White (almost all I think): Read

Watchtower publications (the really old stuff too , that JW's never read)/Russell:Read

Talmud (babylon):Read

LXX: Read

Most of the Gnostic Gospels:Read

Gospel Of Thomas: Read and Studied at length

I think thats enough but there is a hella lot more.



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Old 2006-12-13, 23:55
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I've read through various incarnations on the Bible, and several second-hand sources summarising Gnostic belief. I'm yet to find a translated copy of the Dead Sea Scrolls, otherwise I would enlighten myself a little more.

Also, Jack, isn't the Gospel of Thomas a non-canon text?
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Old 2006-12-14, 00:28
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Also, Jack, isn't the Gospel of Thomas a non-canon text?
Yes, however it differs from the other 'gnostic gospels' in that many scholars believe it stems from a source older than the canon.gospels.

Infact, upon reading it , you don't really need to be much of a scholar to realise that may even contain the (as near as possible) genuine sayings of jesus.

The debate about it is more about the various 'gnostic' type sayings it also contains. How 'gnostic' was judaism at that point/was jesus?

For those interested Gospel Of Thomas

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Old 2006-12-14, 00:42
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Bible: Read in all common and some not so common versions , translated (into german/eng),studied.Also in Koine blah blah blah (I studied for the priesthood).



hey, a preacher told me one time, a lot of scholars and just people studying the Bilble learn german because of some translation thing, what am I thinking of?

Also, I read about a guy and he split his life into 3 15 year section. The first one he learned all the langauges that had anything to do with the Bible, the second was studying, and the third was writing. Do you know who this is? I can't find his name again.
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Old 2006-12-14, 09:19
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hey, a preacher told me one time, a lot of scholars and just people studying the Bilble learn german because of some translation thing, what am I thinking of?

I think he meant that a lot of scholars used to have to learn German inorder to have access to the best and cutting edge studies. For many years German was the language of theology (as it was also I believe for chemistry too).

Pick up any serious English work on theology/biblicals tudies and you'll find it peppered with German jargon. For example 'Sitz im Leben', 'Zeitgeist','Redakteur'.

Thats because 1.modern critical study of the bible started in Germany and 2. German is a far more precise language than English and this makes studying the bible easier in German than English.

However these days there is little need to actually learn German, although i always found it a great help.No idea about your other question.



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Old 2006-12-14, 10:25
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I'm currently reading the bible and have read a lot.

I've been reading Gnostic texts.

And I've read the Principia Discordia.
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Old 2006-12-14, 13:05
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I've read the Bible and I'm in the process of reading the Quran.

Both have great teachings for humanity, however there are a lot negative things in them also.
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quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

I think he meant that a lot of scholars used to have to learn German inorder to have access to the best and cutting edge studies. For many years German was the language of theology (as it was also I believe for chemistry too).

Pick up any serious English work on theology/biblicals tudies and you'll find it peppered with German jargon. For example 'Sitz im Leben', 'Zeitgeist','Redakteur'.

Thats because 1.modern critical study of the bible started in Germany and 2. German is a far more precise language than English and this makes studying the bible easier in German than English.

However these days there is little need to actually learn German, although i always found it a great help.No idea about your other question.



Cool, thanks
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Old 2006-12-15, 00:42
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Bible: King James, NIV, Living Bible, Gideon, and bits and pieces of others.

Gospel of Thomas

The Book of Mormon

Tao Te Ching: A couple translations.

I Ching: a couple translations.

Tao: The Subtle Universal Law

The Book of the Law (and more) by Crowely

A few books on Kabbalah

Rumi(don't remember the title)

Bahgivad Gita

More books on Buddhism than I can remember

Books on Wicca, Chaos Magick, The Corpus Hermitecum, The Emerald Tablets

I'm sure I'm leaving some stuff out.

Edit: accidental emoticon

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Old 2006-12-16, 07:09
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I've read the NIV several times over with cross referencing the KJV, NKJV, ASV, a few concordances, study bibles, movies, apologetic type books (cults) bible studies

I have the Koran but couldn't get into it so I read the "cliff notes" version to understand the principle views and practices.

I have the book of mormon and couldn't read past the first few pages after reading the story of how the gold tablets were buried in North America and the angle of Mormon or whatever told Joe Smith to go get them.

I've studied a bit about all the different ideas out there including WICCA, Universal christ, the different shades of christian denominations and factions etc. etc.

Even after exploring all those paths I still come back to the truth. Jesus saves.

~amen
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Old 2006-12-16, 07:17
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I am currently reading the Koran. If anybody has a link to a website that offers FREE bibles, talmuds, whatever, I would appreciate that.
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Old 2006-12-16, 07:18
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quote:Originally posted by Vegetable Man:

I am currently reading the Koran. If anybody has a link to a website that offers FREE bibles, talmuds, whatever, I would appreciate that.

http://bible.com/

(may not play well on Mozilla)

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