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My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged.

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Old 2006-12-04, 05:06
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im not bashing beliefs or anything. i just have a question.

it seems to me like christians talk about jesus much more than god, and even speak of jesus as god even though he is "the son of god".

why?
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Old 2006-12-04, 05:09
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He is the son of God and God.

Ooh, the Tao of Jesus...
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Old 2006-12-04, 05:14
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Jesus is God. So when we talk about the nature of Jesus, we are talking about the nature of God.
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Old 2006-12-04, 05:40
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Jesus is God. So when we talk about the nature of Jesus, we are talking about the nature of God.
That doesn't make sense. Jesus obviously had human qualities and was not omniscient, or he never would have exclaimed "My god, my god, why hath thou forsaken me?".
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Old 2006-12-04, 05:52
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Yes, Jesus had human characteristics, and divine characteristics. Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He could still pray and talk to God, even though He was God.
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Old 2006-12-04, 06:06
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Yes, Jesus had human characteristics, and divine characteristics. Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He could still pray and talk to God, even though He was God.
Which is why your statement "So when we talk about the nature of Jesus, we are talking about the nature of God." makes no sense. If Jesus was not omniscient, one can't say that talking about his nature is talking about God's nature.
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Old 2006-12-04, 06:29
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Who said Jesus wasn't omniscient. Anyway what I sort of meant talking about Him in regards to what He taught, His views and stuff. Not how He percieved the world in our terms.
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Old 2006-12-04, 06:41
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Who said Jesus wasn't omniscient.
I did. And then you responded to my post.

An omniscient god in human form wouldn't talk to himself, asking why he has forsaken himself, even under extreme duress (unless he wasn't perfect). If he didn't want to be in the situation he was in, he could easily get himself out of it if he was also omnipotent. He was obviously speaking to the Father which must have been greater than him. As a matter of fact, in the book of John, Jesus says "The Father is greater than I".



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Old 2006-12-04, 06:53
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The whole trinity thing makes zero sense. Jesus talked to God, therefore they are two separate individuals.

That cannot be debated.
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Old 2006-12-04, 17:26
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actually it can be debated.

[This message has been edited by Zman (edited 12-04-2006).]
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Old 2006-12-04, 17:48
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i dont know if you havent noticed yet. but christians are a little insane!, nothing they believe makes sense, it doesnt have to
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Old 2006-12-04, 18:44
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quote:Originally posted by Zman:

Jesus is God. So when we talk about the nature of Jesus, we are talking about the nature of God.

Then why dont you say something like umm... god? instead of jesus?

so instead of saying lets talk about jesus! say

Lets talk about god!
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Old 2006-12-04, 19:01
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The OP asked why Christians talk about Jesus instead of God. I said talking about Jesus is talking about God. Saying Jesus is more acurate when you talk about Jesus.
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Old 2006-12-06, 10:23
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Bump, 'cause I'm tired of looking at King's stretched post.
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Old 2006-12-07, 08:07
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Default Re: something i never understood about christianity..

Arian christians were declared heretics at the Council of Nicea. It's just another flaw in Christianity, like Mithrasism.
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