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| My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |
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# 1
2006-10-28, 07:06
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Then why did it take him six days to create Earth, and then have to rest?
Wouldn't God know he was going to creat Earth before he even created it?
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# 2
2006-10-28, 07:39
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I think you're trying to be clever, like saying wouldn't God have totally taken a nap before....
Eh, Fail.
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# 3
2006-10-28, 07:57
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I am not trying to be clever...
It's a valid questions.
Your tag is fitting.
[This message has been edited by AnAsTaSiO (edited 10-28-2006).]
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# 4
2006-10-28, 08:04
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:
I am not trying to be clever...
It's a valid questions.
Your tag is fitting.
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Yes, let's start name calling. I can begin with calling you fucking idiot for starting this thread at all, and for the second and third sentence of this post above me.
Though really you want to argue with a evangelical Christian and I'm not one.
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# 5
2006-10-28, 08:07
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Well, just think about it...if it took you a week to shit out the whole universe, wouldn't you need a rest too?
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# 6
2006-10-28, 08:12
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You're right. I am an asshole for trying to be educated on something. I was not trying to argue with anyone rather learn something.
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# 7
2006-10-28, 08:17
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I do find it strange that it would take a being who can do anything seven days to create the universe. Surely it would more be of a click of the fingers with no need to rest.
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# 8
2006-10-28, 08:20
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:
You're right. I am an asshole for trying to be educated on something. I was not trying to argue with anyone rather learn something.
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Yeah right. I've seen some of your other posts. You're picking a fight, hoping some Christian will come in here and answer your rhetorical questions. The answer you're looking for is, there is no god, or at the very least that Christianity is wrong....
It's a fucking generic bait thread. For a non Christian you sure climb up on the cross quick....
[This message has been edited by half-wit goon (edited 10-28-2006).]
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# 9
2006-10-28, 08:23
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Actually I do believe there is a higher power, I am just not quite sure what it is. I am trying to learn as much as possible about all the religions that I can.
And what are these post that you refer too?
How is it a rhetorical question? Maybe there is some scripture that I do not know about that talks about this.
[This message has been edited by AnAsTaSiO (edited 10-28-2006).]
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# 10
2006-10-28, 08:30
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:
And what are these post that you refer too?
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You know what, my bad, you're not the person I'm thinking of. I still find this to be generic bait thread, but I apologize for my harsh tone, and perhaps someone who is more commited will give you an answer.
[This message has been edited by half-wit goon (edited 10-28-2006).]
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#11
2006-10-28, 09:49 |
Merlinman2005 
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 Re: If God was all powerful...
Well the word for day also means eon, or a long period of time.
And who said he HAD to rest?
Also, look into the Mayan's cycles of days. Seven days (and six nights) per big friggin' cycle. I believe we're still in the seventh "day," and the whole resting thing is in a way still occuring, which means we're still developing and on our way to fully reaching our potential.
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#12
2006-10-28, 10:27 |
Source
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Re: If God was all powerful...
quote:Originally posted by Merlinman2005:
Well the word for day also means eon, or a long period of time.
And who said he HAD to rest?
Also, look into the Mayan's cycles of days. Seven days (and six nights) per big friggin' cycle. I believe we're still in the seventh "day," and the whole resting thing is in a way still occuring, which means we're still developing and on our way to fully reaching our potential.
So you're saying God is asleep and one day is going to wake up and say, "OMGWTF!! HAVE THEY DONE TO MY PLANET!?!?"
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#13
2006-10-28, 15:14 |
Merlinman2005
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Re: If God was all powerful...
quote:Originally posted by Source:
So you're saying God is asleep and one day is going to wake up and say, "OMGWTF!! HAVE THEY DONE TO MY PLANET!?!?"
No, for God can't really "sleep."
I don't believe in a god, but the entity described in the Bible, I believe, would have just stopped taking an active rolen in creating us on this seventh day.
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#14
2006-10-28, 15:57 |
Martini
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Re: If God was all powerful...
quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:
Wouldn't God know he was going to creat Earth before he even created it?
What point are you trying to make with this statement?
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#15
2006-10-28, 16:39 |
MidnightRambler
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Re: If God was all powerful...
Maybe the seven days thing proves he isn't omnipotent. It would solve some questions of free will, and paradoxes. Because if he isn't omnipotent, then likely he isn't omniscient either. Of course he would still be the strongest entity in exestence.
Edit: Spelling
[This message has been edited by MidnightRambler (edited 10-29-2006).]
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#16
2006-10-28, 16:46 |
Martini
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Re: If God was all powerful...
quote:Originally posted by MidnightRambler:
Maybe the seven days thing proves he isn't omnipotent. It would solve some questions of free will, and paradoxes. Because if he isn't omnipotent, then likely he isn't omniscient either.
Then the more likely scenario - He is omnipotent and omniscient as far as fairy tales go.
quote:Originally posted by MidnightRambler:
Of course he would still be the strongest entuty in exestence.
Why "of course"? Why can't there be greater gods laughing at his lack of power and knowledge?
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#17
2006-10-29, 01:11 |
AnAsTaSiO
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Re: If God was all powerful...
quote:Originally posted by Martini:
Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:
Wouldn't God know he was going to creat Earth before he even created it?
What point are you trying to make with this statement?
I am not nescessarly trying to prove anything, but rather just state that taking time to do something means that it takes effort. But if god was all-knowing and all- powerful then it should not take anytime
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#18
2006-10-29, 01:15 |
Merlinman2005
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Re: If God was all powerful...
No, if he didn't want it to take time then it wouldn't, but you can't say since he can do anything then he Would Have been *poof*
"All done."
And wouldn't that just upset those who think six days is too short, even more? To go from six days to instantaneous creation, though quite a change, is still something begging to be argued with.
Perhaps the so-called natural creation of everything as we know, was directed by him. The formations of galaxies, the condensing of planets and junk, all of that done over the course of eons (refer to my other post if you're gonna go "but it says Days").
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#19
2006-10-29, 02:25 |
AnAsTaSiO
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Re: If God was all powerful...
quote:Originally posted by Merlinman2005:
No, if he didn't want it to take time then it wouldn't, but you can't say since he can do anything then he Would Have been *poof*
"All done."
And wouldn't that just upset those who think six days is too short, even more? To go from six days to instantaneous creation, though quite a change, is still something begging to be argued with.
Perhaps the so-called natural creation of everything as we know, was directed by him. The formations of galaxies, the condensing of planets and junk, all of that done over the course of eons (refer to my other post if you're gonna go "but it says Days").
Why can't I say that?
I apolgize for my ignorance, but who think's six days is too short?
I believe that a higher power of sorts did set that in motion.
[This message has been edited by AnAsTaSiO (edited 10-29-2006).]
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#20
2006-10-29, 07:44 |
The_Big_Beef
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Re: If God was all powerful...
quote:Originally posted by Source:
So you're saying God is asleep and one day is going to wake up and say, "OMGWTF!! HAVE THEY DONE TO MY PLANET!?!?"
lmao. kudos for you.
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#21
2006-10-30, 03:56 |
satanicbusdriver
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Re: If God was all powerful...
what day were the dinosaurs created?
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#22
2006-10-30, 04:33 |
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Re: If God was all powerful...
I read in Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson, "If God is omnipotent, then He can do anything. Therefore, God can create a rock so heavy that He cannot lift it. But if He cannot lift it, then He is not omnipotent (because that is one thing He cannot do). And If He cannot create such a rock, then He is likewise not omnipotent. Therefore, God cannot be omnipotent.
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#23
2006-10-30, 04:35 |
AnAsTaSiO
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Re: If God was all powerful...
That is one of the oldest paradoxs around.
I have posed that question to really religous people before and there answer is always FAITH.
Faith is great but not to the point of ignorance.
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#24
2006-10-30, 04:42 |
woolgatherer
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Re: If God was all powerful...
This is apparantly one man's offer to a solution to that paradox.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/billramey/omni.htm
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#25
2006-10-30, 04:45 |
woolgatherer
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Re: If God was all powerful...
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Originally Posted by woolgatherer
This is apparantly one man's offer to a solution to that paradox.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/billramey/omni.htm
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#26
2006-10-30, 04:54 |
Merlinman2005
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Re: If God was all powerful...
quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:
Why can't I say that?
I apolgize for my ignorance, but who think's six days is too short?
I believe that a higher power of sorts did set that in motion.
- You can't say it because you're asserting you know what God would do if he was omni-those, claiming he would do it instantaneously. That's why.
- And those who think six days is too short are those who make fun of that fact. You know, the atheists that include with their arguments the fact that the Bible followers believe it was made in a week.. um I think they're called six-day creationists. Those who argue against that fact.
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#27
2006-10-31, 11:43 |
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Re: If God was all powerful...
Well the old testament, in its sense, is just a really old story book. the guys that wrote the bible probably didnt mean 6 literal days, but added it in for a story.
You see, if you read it closely, God is very human (as he was a human manifestation) and because he had human properties, he did things slowly, like any other person would do. Its just to reflect on the similarities between god and man
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#28
2006-10-31, 15:47 |
ate
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Re: If God was all powerful...
Why is the bible the truth about God?
Isn't that a little biased?
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#29
2006-10-31, 15:54 |
AnAsTaSiO
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Re: If God was all powerful...
quote:Originally posted by Mantikore:
Well the old testament, in its sense, is just a really old story book. the guys that wrote the bible probably didnt mean 6 literal days, but added it in for a story.
You see, if you read it closely, God is very human (as he was a human manifestation) and because he had human properties, he did things slowly, like any other person would do. Its just to reflect on the similarities between god and man
I think that a great majority of the Bible was added in for story. Although, I'm sure it does have some historical facts in it.
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