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  #1   Add 949 to your ignore list  
Old 2006-09-17, 05:46
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Heres a question, why does god hate homosexuals?

He 'created" many creatures that are inherently homosexual. I.e manatees
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Old 2006-09-17, 07:13
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If there was a god, homosexuals wouldn't exist at all.
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Old 2006-09-17, 08:17
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Because they can't reproduce ("be fruitful and multiply").
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Old 2006-09-17, 08:23
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Because they can't reproduce ("be fruitful and multiply").
Sending someone to hell for all eternity for not being able to reproduce and for having sex with someone of the same sex is absurd and utterly pathetic.
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Old 2006-09-17, 09:13
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How can something as hot as lesbians be a sin? It should be a sin for them not to do it.

Edit: I'm talking about the hot ass skinny looking lesbians, not the fugly looking ones, they can got to hell.

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Old 2006-09-17, 11:48
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Because they can't reproduce ("be fruitful and multiply").
And if they're born sterile...?
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Old 2006-09-17, 13:36
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It's the Christians who said that homosexuality was wrong. Back in the day they needed an excuse to execute homosexuals. So they used the vague, unspecific passages in the bible as an excuse.



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Old 2006-09-17, 16:48
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It's the Christians who said that homosexuality was wrong. Back in the day they needed an excuse to execute homosexuals. So they used the vague, unspecific passages in the bible as an excuse.



~Q~
While I'm not a Christian the bible definitely explicitly labels gay sex as a sin.
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Old 2006-09-17, 16:56
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While I'm not a Christian the bible definitely explicitly labels gay sex as a sin.
nobody knows whta the fuck it means, because the bible got passed down (mostly) word for word, while language, and the meaning of words, changed. Its some 2000 fucking years old, the meanings have changed, people have removed parts, edited parts, and generally fucked with it to do their pleasing. It is no more reliable then a text book with half the pages ripped out, and giant cocks drawen on the rest.
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Old 2006-09-17, 18:29
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Only some peoples Gods hate gays.
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Old 2006-09-17, 18:52
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quote:Originally posted by Frontier Psychiatrist:

And if they're born sterile...?
Homosexuality (according to Christians) is a matter of choice.

Being born sterile isn't.
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Old 2006-09-17, 18:55
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quote:Originally posted by Q:

It's the Christians who said that homosexuality was wrong. Back in the day they needed an excuse to execute homosexuals. So they used the vague, unspecific passages in the bible as an excuse.



~Q~
Actually, the Christian part of the Bible (NT) doesn't mention homosexuality. Jesus never mentions homosexuality specifically ever.

It is the Hebrew Bible (OT) that condemns homosexuals numerous times.
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Old 2006-09-17, 19:27
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quote:Originally posted by 949:

Heres a question, why does god hate homosexuals?

He 'created" many creatures that are inherently homosexual. I.e manatees
If God is love, there is no room for hate? You and the so-called christians who believe god hates homosexuals must have it wrong.

Namaste
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Old 2006-09-17, 19:34
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because he had a negative homosexual experience as a child.
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Old 2006-09-17, 20:31
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The Christian god hates faggots for the same reason I find them disgusting. Because they fuck each other in the assholes for the fun of it. Sex (according to christians) is supposed to be something that a man and woman do purely for the purpose of creating a child, to just fuck each other in the asshole is perverted and vile.
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Old 2006-09-17, 21:20
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The Christian god hates faggots for the same reason I find them disgusting. Because they fuck each other in the assholes for the fun of it. Sex (according to christians) is supposed to be something that a man and woman do purely for the purpose of creating a child, to just fuck each other in the asshole is perverted and vile.
That would be the catholics.

And god damnit someone stole my response... dick.
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Old 2006-09-17, 23:33
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If God is love, there is no room for hate? You and the so-called christians who believe god hates homosexuals must have it wrong.

Namaste
Christians are taught to hate the sin, not the sinner. God doesn't hate the murderer, he hates the murder. He doesn't hate the homosexual, he hates the disobedience itself.

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Old 2006-09-17, 23:52
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i thought god was an everloving, everforgiving creature. god cant hate anything.

also, priests dont have sex, does god hate them for not being "fruitful and multiplying"?
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Old 2006-09-18, 00:02
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i thought god was an everloving, everforgiving creature. god cant hate anything.

also, priests dont have sex, does god hate them for not being "fruitful and multiplying"?
I would certainly hope God hates evil. I mean, it says in the bible "The Lord detests lying lips, but delights in those that are truthful." God does, however, forgive everyone their transgressions if they ask him for forgiveness and sincerely mean it in their heart. Also, the sin is not failure to multiply, it's breaking "if a man lie down with another man as he would a woman, it shall be counted a sin" or something to that effect.

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Old 2006-09-18, 03:04
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What is the purpose of sex? To reproduce the human species. Why do homosexuals have sexual relations? To feed their desires. Desire takes you farther from god.
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Old 2006-09-18, 04:01
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Christians are taught to hate the sin, not the sinner. God doesn't hate the murderer, he hates the murder. He doesn't hate the homosexual, he hates the disobedience itself.

Christians are taught that God is perfect, how is it possible for a perfect being to be even disturbed by anything let alone hate it? Where's the perfection in feeling or expressing hate? How would it be a perfect existence to have hate in one's mind?

Is it disobedience, ignorance, natural forces or something else that determines sexual orientation? Are the animals that display homosexual behaviour disobedient?

There are lots of documented observations that many species indulge in same sex behaviours, but human ideas of animal thought is that they act only on instinct. How are we different to other animals? If some people, like animals, act from an unusual instinct, where is that coming from?

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Old 2006-09-18, 04:18
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quote:Originally posted by AeroDynamic:

Homosexuality (according to Christians) is a matter of choice.

Being born sterile isn't.
Hmmm. Why do so many gay people wish they were straight? It's almost like it WASN'T a choice.
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Old 2006-09-18, 18:52
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quote:Originally posted by Esplender:

If there was a god, homosexuals wouldn't exist at all.
This is a spectacularly illogical statement.

God loves everyone equally--it is us domesticated primates who hate.
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Old 2006-09-18, 19:44
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If there was a god, mosquitos wouldn't exist.
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Old 2006-09-18, 23:34
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Don't forget that most males with HIV and AIDS are homosexual.
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Old 2006-09-19, 09:40
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A LONG time ago when god was in college he was drinking and decided he was going to do a gravity bong hit one turned into two and so on till he did about 5-6 and then did some acid.

When he woke up the next day there were polaroids everywhere of a guy putting his dick in god's mouth and teabagging him his ass was also suspiciously sore...

If you know the true history of the bible its really tough to consider any of it "the word of god"
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Old 2006-09-19, 11:38
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Don't forget that most males with HIV and AIDS are homosexual.
Did you know that the majority of people who are HIV-positive are in fact girls in their late teens and early twenties?

[This message has been edited by Raw_Power (edited 09-19-2006).]
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Old 2006-09-19, 12:01
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quote:Originally posted by Frontier Psychiatrist:

And if they're born sterile...?


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quote:Originally posted by AeroDynamic:

Homosexuality (according to Christians) is a matter of choice.

Being born sterile isn't.
What if you start a fight with someone, and they kick you in the nuts, making you sterile? Would it be your fault for starting the fight? Or wouldn't it be, because you couldn't anticipate that the fight was going to make you sterile?

This is of course assuming that the Judeo-Christian God hates homosexuals because they can't "be fruitful and multiply".

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Old 2006-09-19, 12:07
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quote:This is of course assuming that the Judeo-Christian God hates homosexuals because they can't "be fruitful and multiply".
Which I can't find stated anywhere in the New Testament.
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Old 2006-09-19, 19:06
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quote:Originally posted by AeroDynamic:

Homosexuality (according to Christians) is a matter of choice.

Being born sterile isn't.
It's a shitty analogy because one has been proven by science and one has not. Could it be that the one that hasn't been proven by Science as not biological is the one that Christians embrace? I think so.
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Old 2006-09-19, 19:08
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What is the purpose of sex? To reproduce the human species. Why do homosexuals have sexual relations? To feed their desires. Desire takes you farther from god.
So heterosexuals are equally harmful to God's vision and we should propose amendments banning recreational sex by married couples?
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Old 2006-09-20, 04:44
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In the words of Daniel Tosh:

God doesnt hate gays. Hes just angry at them for finding a loophole in the system. I mean come on people who sinned first? Ladies, do you have to eat everything, what? A talking snake told you to, stick to that story we've bought it for this long. Now what was womens punishment? Periods, and painful child birth. Whats a mans punishment? Putting up with women. But now gays have found a hole in the system, "we have to deal with women? Screw this we are just gonna bang each other"

Yea, that was loosely translated from what I can remember.
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Old 2006-09-20, 06:23
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quote:Originally posted by Raw_Power:

Which I can't find stated anywhere in the New Testament.
I think it's in the Old Testament, Genesis or something.
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Old 2006-09-20, 06:48
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God should just smite all the fags.
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Old 2006-09-20, 07:23
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quote:Originally posted by Whore of God:

I think it's in the Old Testament, Genesis or something.
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quote:Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 18:21-23

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Leviticus 20:12-14 ]http:../../www.biblegateway.com/default.htm


Sounds serious huh? What does it mean tho - abomination?

1. anything abominable; anything greatly disliked or abhorred.

2. intense aversion or loathing; detestation: He regarded lying with abomination.

3. a vile, shameful, or detestable action, condition, habit, etc.: Spitting in public is an abomination. http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...TION&x=22&y=19

How do other parts of the Bible use the word:

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quote:Thou shalt not sacrifice unto the LORD thy God any bullock, or sheep, wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness: for that is an abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Deuteronomy 17:1-3

The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Deuteronomy 22:4-6
So in that context, does that mean homosexuality is as sinful as a woman wearing men's clothing or a man dressing up in drag?

How did the word originate in the language of the authors of the Bible?

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quote:This word is used, (1.) To express the idea that the Egyptians considered

themselves as defiled when they ate with strangers (Gen. 43:32). The Jews

subsequently followed the same practice, holding it unlawful to eat or drink

with foreigners (John 18:28; Acts 10:28; 11:3). ]http:../../dictionary.reference.com/search@q=00-database-info&db=easton
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Old 2006-09-20, 07:25
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quote:Originally posted by Whore of God:

I think it's in the Old Testament, Genesis or something.
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quote:Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 18:21-23

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Leviticus 20:12-14 ]http:../../www.biblegateway.com/default.htm


Sounds serious huh? What does it mean tho - abomination?

1. anything abominable; anything greatly disliked or abhorred.

2. intense aversion or loathing; detestation: He regarded lying with abomination.

3. a vile, shameful, or detestable action, condition, habit, etc.: Spitting in public is an abomination. http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...TION&x=22&y=19

How do other parts of the Bible use the word:

Quote:
quote:Thou shalt not sacrifice unto the LORD thy God any bullock, or sheep, wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness: for that is an abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Deuteronomy 17:1-3

The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Deuteronomy 22:4-6
So in that context, does that mean homosexuality is as sinful as a woman wearing men's clothing or a man dressing up in drag?

How did the word originate in the language of the authors of the Bible?

Quote:
quote:This word is used, (1.) To express the idea that the Egyptians considered

themselves as defiled when they ate with strangers (Gen. 43:32). The Jews

subsequently followed the same practice, holding it unlawful to eat or drink

with foreigners (John 18:28; Acts 10:28; 11:3). ]http:../../dictionary.reference.com/search@q=00-database-info&db=easton


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Old 2006-09-20, 22:45
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Check it out. GOD DOESN'T HATE PEOPLE. HE HATES SIN. God died for the WORLD. I personalize it, because He knew I would be here, and He knew that I would need a saviour. He knew me before I was ever born. The same with all of you. He loves you all. He died for you all. He knew that none were righteous. He knew that mans righteousness with that of filthy rags. He send His only begotten Son, who was empowered with the very power the Father has, to become a man and take on the punishment of men, and to show men how it is to be done. God the Father, sent His son, who was God manifested in the flesh to take on the punishment of sinful flesh and restore a right standing relationship between man and God, the Father. No man can come to the Father expect through Christ. Man can't come to God relying on his own righteousness, because mans righteousness is as filthy rags, but man can come to God through the righteousness of The Lord Jesus Christ, who was and is so Holy that hell couldn't contain Him, and the grave couldn't stop Him. Hallelujah!

The Holy One lives in me, and I can say since I'm in Him, and He's in me, hell can't stop me, because He overcame hell for me, and you.

ONLY BELIEVE!!!

I can't even begin to stress to any of you, as a whole, and more importantly, as individuals, how much God loves you. You say, "If there was proof I would believe." Faith is proof. Believeing His Word is Proof. Faith BELIEVES, and doesn't doubt. The scribes and pharisees seen miracles before their very eyes, and they weren't filled with faith, they were filled with fear, and jealous, insomuch that they murdered God in, what they believed, the name of God. They believed they were right, and they didn't doubt that they were right, insomuch, that they crucified the one they claimed to have believed upon.

God loves you all, and I do too, with His love shed abroad in my heart.

ONLY BELIEVE!
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Old 2006-09-20, 23:22
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If sodomy is sinnful then by the transitive gay sex is. Which is why God loves clam wrestling lesbians.

... Manatees are inherently homosexual?
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