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My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged.

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Old 2006-09-05, 12:30
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I'm just curious as to whether or not you celerbrate christmas.

It is after all a religious holiday celerbrating jesus's birth, right? So do you except presents form people? do you give presents to people? Do you refuse point blank to acknowledge such occasion altogether?
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Old 2006-09-05, 12:38
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1. Christians stole Christmas from the pagans.

2. I celebrate for the free presents!
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Old 2006-09-05, 12:52
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I'm from christian grandparents, so I'm going to say I count.

We celibrate christmas mostly to keep the older generation happy. Its also the only time in the year our greater family actually has time off to get together.

And as Raw_Power said, everyone like to induge in presents. If you haven't seen everyone in 12 months, you like to celebrate.

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Old 2006-09-05, 13:18
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quote:Originally posted by Raw_Power:

1. Christians stole Christmas from the pagans.

2. I celebrate for the free presents!
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Old 2006-09-05, 14:12
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Every Christmas when I was a kid I would get up, wait patiently (as patiently as you could expect a child to wait in front of presents) until my grandparents arrived, and then my sister and I would open said presents.

We would eat a bit of chocolate from our Christmas stockings, the adults would have a drink or two, and then we would go over to a friend's house to meet up with a host of family friends. The adults would chat away, and I was good friends with a couple of lads there and we'd go upstairs to play our new Playstation games. This got better as I turned about 13 and I was allowed a beer or two. Extra special day.

Then in the afternoon, we'd go home and have Christmas dinner, a host of wonderful desserts, more time to play with our presents, my grandparents would leave, and I would go to bed.

Coming from a family of football fans, Boxing Day usually consisted of a trip to the Blades match with my Dad.

Now, after that seemingly pointless drivel, let me get to the core of my post:

Never once do I remember anyone ruining my holiday by mentioning Jesus.

As far as I can see, Christmas is drinking and family first, and religion as a VERY distant second.
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Old 2006-09-05, 15:00
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I think most people just think of Christmas as a family get-together sort of thing. Without that jolly holiday, winter would be really bleak.
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Old 2006-09-05, 15:15
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So what your telling me is, you're just in it for the presents. Fair enough, I suppose it's a good a reason as any.

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Old 2006-09-05, 15:58
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I don't see it as really religious in nature. It's a nearly worldwide and very famous, prevelant holiday that's a lot of fun besides; why not celebrate it?
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Old 2006-09-05, 16:09
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I call it christmas because that's what everyone else calls it. It's just a title and won't do any harm anyway, so it's not a big deal.

I celebrate time off of work/school and family instead of the birth of Jesus. Of course, we'll teach our daughter the history of christmas and she'll be familiar with the Jesus story, but she'll also know that I don't believe in any of the christian religion (her mom kind of does).
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Old 2006-09-05, 16:42
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I celebrate time off of work/school and family instead of the birth of Jesus. Of course, we'll teach our daughter the history of christmas and she'll be familiar with the Jesus story, but she'll also know that I don't believe in any of the christian religion (her mom kind of does).
Actually this is how I was raised, except both my parents are atheist.

I was always encouraged to be in the school nativity, to take part at Easter etc. etc.

Equally they never encouraged actual religion, just that I should be a part of everything. When I was old enough to actually start asking them questions, then they didn't lie about their stance.

I think it's really the best way.
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Old 2006-09-05, 17:46
Frontier Psychiatrist Frontier Psychiatrist is offline
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Default Re: This question goes out to the atheist's from christian families....

Meh, why do Christians celebrate the pagan fertility festival Easter (Eoster)? My family was never big on Christmas so no I don't usually celebrate it - it's more along the lines of recognition that it is Christmas and not just any other day, ya know?
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Old 2006-09-06, 00:31
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Default Re: This question goes out to the atheist's from christian families....

I celebrate christmas more as having a fun day of opening presents and hanging out with the family and doing all the old traditions of christmas rather than the actual religious part behind it. even though i am an atheist i will always celebrate it as a time for giving or receiving. i will even say "merry christmas" to everyone i see during the holiday instead of "happy holiday" (i think thats just gay as hell).
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Old 2006-09-06, 01:58
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Default Re: This question goes out to the atheist's from christian families....

I'm pretty much an atheist, but I still celebrate christmas. I do celebrate Jesus' birth because of the ideals he brought to the world. Wether he was the embodiment of god or not is irrellevent of the message he brought to the world.



December 25 isn't actually christ's birthday anyway, its winter solstace which was first started by Egyptian sun god worshippers. Christ was born in March or April, but nobody is positive of which month or day.
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Old 2006-09-06, 03:45
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Default Re: This question goes out to the atheist's from christian families....

I think I'll celebrate Jesus' birthday this year by burning a bible.
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Old 2006-09-06, 03:47
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Default Re: This question goes out to the atheist's from christian families....

Presents are always good no matter the excuse.
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Old 2006-09-06, 11:23
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Default Re: This question goes out to the atheist's from christian families....

It's an american tradition as well as a christian one. Besides many families that would identify themselves as christian don't get all jesusy on the holiday anyway. The tree, the ornaments, the lights, stalkings... none of these are inherently jesusy.
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Old 2006-09-07, 17:58
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Default Re: This question goes out to the atheist's from christian families....

I'm agnostic and my mother is religious (a minister, actually). It's never been an issue. Actually, it is when she wants to go to midnight Mass instead of staying home and eating cookies with the dog.
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Old 2006-09-07, 18:22
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Default Re: This question goes out to the atheist's from christian families....

Yeah, family and unity first, religion doesn't even come into the picture for me.

Hell, it isn't Jesus' birthday on the 25h December anyway.
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Old 2006-09-07, 23:30
SurahAhriman SurahAhriman is offline
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Default Re: This question goes out to the atheist's from christian families....

I'm a fan of Christmas. I like the traditions around it, and ignore the Jesus crap. My friends and I also celebrate the Solstice, and Festivus, so mit's just kind of two weeks of fun.

And should I ever have kids, they're getting the full Santa package.
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Old 2006-09-08, 00:19
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Default Re: This question goes out to the atheist's from christian families....

Well first of all I think it would be an unfair generalization to say that Christians believe christmass is the day Jesus was born, when actually some just celebrate it on that day knowing that he wasn't born around that date.
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