Islam and chemistry

This is a good slap in the face of any muslim Quoting ibn taymeya for anything in favour of islam :

يقول ابن تيمية في الفتاوى عن رأيه في الكيمياء : (ما يصنعه بنو آدم من الذهب والفضة وغيرهما من أنواع الجواهر والطيب ، وغير ذلك مما يشبهون به ما خلقه الله من ذلك ؛ مثل ما يصنعونه من اللؤلؤ ، والياقوت والمسك ، والعنب ر، وماء الورد ، وغير ذلك : فهذا كله ليس مثل ما يخلقه الله من ذلك ؛ بل هو مشابه له من بعض الوجوه و ليس هو مساويا له في الحد والحقيقة . وذلك كله محرم في الشرع بلا نزاع بين علماء المسلمين الذين يعلمون حقيقة ذلك !! . ومن زعم أن الذهب المصنوع مثل المخلوق فقوله باطل في العقل والدين ) . ويواصل : ( وحقيقة " الكيمياء " إنما هي تشبيه المخلوق وهو باطل في العقل والله تعالى ليس كمثله شيء لا في ذاته ولا في صفاته ولا في أفعاله. و كل ما أنتجته الكيمياء من منتجات هي مضاهاة لخلق الله ، وبالتالي هي محرمة ). الفتاوى ، كتاب "الفقه" ، البيع ، باب الخيار ، مسألة : عمل الكيمياء هل تصح بالعقل أو تجوز بالشرع . الطبعة الاولى : مجلد 29 ، ص 368 .

و يقول ابن تيمية عن عالم الكيمياء جابر بن حيان : ( وأما جابر بن حيان صاحبُ المصنفات المشهورة عند الكيماوية ، فمجهولٌ ، لا يعرف ، وليسَ له ذكرٌ بين أهل العلم ، ولا بين أهل الدين ) نفس الجزء صفحة 369

TRANSLATION (by me) :

Ibn Taymeya Says in His "Fatwas" about his opinion in Chemistery: (Whatever Man Makes of (unnatural) Gold, Silver , Emeralds Etc. and other things that He Makes in an attempt to Mimic Allah's original creations, All these things are Never like Allah's creations...But are just similar to them in a few things, And All these acts are Definetly FORBIDDEN And all other Imams Agree to this !! ) ...and continues : ( Actually chemistery is nothing but an attempt to simulate the creatures , and this is HARAM and Wrong, Because there is nothing like allah or like his creations, Thus, the Products of chemistery are Banned.) -Kitab al fiqh, on the issue of chemistery, Book 29, page 368

Also Ibn taymeya Says about the famouse mideaval Arab Chemics Scientist Jabir ibn Hayyan :"and as for Jabir ibn Hayyan who Is known For His chemical Productions, He is infamous, unknown, Has No Value in the field of Knowledge people Nor in the field of Religon people" . (same, page 369)



and this is another Slap for muslims who babble about how scientist Were Never Been lookd down to by the religous Heads in the old islamic state.

have fun.

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/foru...ic.php?p=31545

suck my dick, terrorist.

[Social Junker]

Huh?

[Moonius]

This would do better in lab tips, however they're probably busy cooking something up and don't really give a fuck.

We share their opinion of the "not give a fuck" factor.

[Social Junker]

Since this seems to have something to do with Islam, I'm going to move it to My God...

Just to let you know, that's for the extreme Islamics who don't even eat at McDonald's because the meat wasn't cut by a Muslim who said 'Bismillah-heraman-neraheem' before they cut it.

I, am a Muslim, and am not that extreme. There are some things we have to do, some things we are allowed to do, some things we are suggested to do, and some things we are prohibited from doing. People take those things and confuse themselves into thinking a suggestion is mandatory or so.

quote:Originally posted by anonymouslyaware:

Just to let you know, that's for the extreme Islamics who don't even eat at McDonald's because the meat wasn't cut by a Muslim who said 'Bismillah-heraman-neraheem' before they cut it.

I, am a Muslim, and am not that extreme. There are some things we have to do, some things we are allowed to do, some things we are suggested to do, and some things we are prohibited from doing. People take those things and confuse themselves into thinking a suggestion is mandatory or so.

Very Good! Talk to me on MSN or AIM please! abrahimesker@hotmail.com and abrahimesker

Online guide: Killing 'infidels'

Islamic website offers tips on killing foreigners in Saudi Arabia, tells potential attackers murdering foreigners easier than they think

Ynetnews

Published: 08.24.06, 12:51



The Islamic al-Khasba website has published on August 4 a document titled "How to Kill a Crusader on the Arabian Peninsula," The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) reported.



The document details several possible ways to kill western victims and provides tips on selecting them, following them, and finally murdering them.



The Islamic guide urges the potential attacker to pray before embarking on his mission so that God leads him in the right path. Assailants are also instructed to change their appearance as much as possible in order to ensure they do not appear to be religious – this includes a recommendation for a clean shave.



Similarly, the guide recommends that the Jihad attacker get rid of any items in his car that could point to his religious beliefs, such

as Jihad tapes.

"The most important thing is that the car has nothing that points to its owner being a religious person," the document says, "…so that if the dogs of the interrogation or emergency (apparatuses) or others arrest you in a suspicious place and search your car, they will not find anything that proves you're a religious person and release you immediately."

'Good knife to butcher infidel'

Another important tip: "In order to carry out the mission when the time comes you must possess a weapon (a handgun or a submachine gun), or a good knife, if you're interested in butchering the infidel, or this (Saudi) dog…"



The online guide also offers tips on surveillance and recommends that attackers observe non-Muslim communities early in the morning, while making sure to only pass through once to avoid raising the suspicions of the "army dogs at the gates."



The document notes that foreigners these days feel safer because of the minimal number of attacks in recent time, but warns: "The Jihadist wave is approaching and Allah will hide this from them."



When it comes to killing "infidels," the guides recommends that attackers first forge an ID card in order to rent a vehicle. It also advises attackers to kill foreigners far away from work in case the assailant works in the same company, in order to avoid becoming a suspect.



Later, attackers are instructed to plan an escape route in advance and be careful not to tell anyone about the murder. The guide also encourages killers to record their act so it can be presented in the media and enjoy wider resonance.



"After the mission succeeds you'll realize this is very simple and there's no need for a whole cell (to do it,) one, two, or three people are enough," the guide concludes.

http:../../www.ynetnews.com/articles/0_252...5242_252c00.html

The book Islam and Terrorism by Mark Gabriel: http://tinyurl.com/fbtv7 http://www .amazon.co m/gp/produ ct/0884198 847/qid=11 40213202/s r=2-1/ref= pd_bbs_b_2 _1/104-5269966-1274325?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

Some pages from Mark Gabriel's book (need Adobe Acrobat Reader):

http:../../home.ripway.com/2005-6/328030...l/chapter4.pdf 206KB

http:../../home.ripway.com/2005-6/328030...l/chapter5.pdf 124KB

http:../../home.ripway.com/2005-6/328030...itchapter6.pdf 101KB

http:../../home.ripway.com/2005-6/328030...mpastorch7.pdf 100MB

http:../../home.ripway.com/2005-6/328030...sjihadch11.pdf 88MB

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quote:Originally posted by Abrahim:

Very Good! Talk to me on MSN or AIM please! abrahimesker@hotmail.com and abrahimesker

I added you on AIM.

I only go on MSN for a game I play(runescape, yeah, I know) so I won't bother adding you there.

And 'suck my dick,' you repeating yourself doesn't change much.

[This message has been edited by anonymouslyaware (edited 08-25-2006).]