Pagan/Wiccans?

just wondering if there are any here besides me

quote:Originally posted by CaffeineJunkie:

just wondering if there are any here besides me

I don't know if I would be considered one. Glad you're back! Feel free to contact me on those messenger programs. Please check out my new article about Extra Terrestrials and tell me what you think hehe.

well do thanks for the welcome back

One eclectic pagan here with a preference for Chaos magick, how about yourself?

[malaria]

I am a heathen, but I don't generally associate with pagans or witches.

quote:Originally posted by Murloc:

One eclectic pagan here with a preference for Chaos magick, how about yourself?

solitary Wiccan, there arn't many wiccans or pagans in my area at all

quote:Originally posted by malaria:

I am a heathen, but I don't generally associate with pagans or witches.

Im unfilmiar with that. tell a little about it?

[malaria]

http:../../www.religioustolerance.org/asatru.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81satr%C3%BA

quote:Originally posted by malaria:

http://www .religious tolerance. org/asatru.htm http://en .wikipedia .org/wiki/ %C3%81satr%C3%BA

ah I see, and I understand why don't don't assoiate with us.

[malaria]

I don't have any reason to. Almost every single witch and other pagan I have met has been into it strictly for the 'rebellion' of it. It's a fad, nothing more.

Besides that, Asatru is based upon real historical records and cultural traditions. It's more of a family religion than a world religion.

[This message has been edited by malaria (edited 08-21-2006).]

quote:Originally posted by malaria:

I don't have any reason to. Almost every single witch and other pagan I have met has been into it strictly for the 'rebellion' of it. It's a fad, nothing more.

I compeletely know what your talking about, they're in it to do spells and shit, they know nothing of the religion or anything, they think it's cool to be a "Witch" or whatever. Its annoying! I like the religion itself, I don't even use magick that much

[ArmsMerchant]

I was a solitary for a while in the eighties, had an altar and all.

Now I just think of myself as a friend of God--if you must pin a label on me, I guess "gnostic pagan deist animist" is reasonably accurate.

[This message has been edited by ArmsMerchant (edited 08-23-2006).]

quote:Originally posted by ArmsMerchant:

I was a soitary for a while in the eightioes, has an altar and all.

Now I just think of myself as a friend of God--if you must pin a label on me, I guess "gnostic pagan deist animist" is reasonably accurate.

thats pretty cool

Pagan,Wiccan,Christian,Heathen, i get so tired of labels. I'm not sure what i am but i follow rules and guidelines that suit me and what i believe

[Gorloche]

Wicca was invented by a man in the fifties. Continuing Paganism requires a tremendous amount of stupidity to stare in the face of scientific fact and poo-poo it with "magick." By the way, according to Thelema, "magick" is the blasphemous wzay to spell the word. It should be spelled "magic," and ti should also be understood that, at least according to the occult (whom i trust mroe in information than you as I ahve Crowley's books on hand), amgic is not intended to be a functional entity but merely a metaphorical action taken to express and gain control over one's environment and situation. An empowerment thing for people not strong enough internally to reach out and take what they need.

Long live science, you superstitious motherfuckers.

quote:Originally posted by Gorloche:

Wicca was invented by a man in the fifties. Continuing Paganism requires a tremendous amount of stupidity to stare in the face of scientific fact and poo-poo it with "magick." By the way, according to Thelema, "magick" is the blasphemous wzay to spell the word. It should be spelled "magic," and ti should also be understood that, at least according to the occult (whom i trust mroe in information than you as I ahve Crowley's books on hand), amgic is not intended to be a functional entity but merely a metaphorical action taken to express and gain control over one's environment and situation. An empowerment thing for people not strong enough internally to reach out and take what they need.

Long live science, you superstitious motherfuckers.

Thelema was written by a Dentist.

quote:Originally posted by Gorloche:

Wicca was invented by a man in the fifties. Continuing Paganism requires a tremendous amount of stupidity to stare in the face of scientific fact and poo-poo it with "magick." By the way, according to Thelema, "magick" is the blasphemous wzay to spell the word. It should be spelled "magic," and ti should also be understood that, at least according to the occult (whom i trust mroe in information than you as I ahve Crowley's books on hand), amgic is not intended to be a functional entity but merely a metaphorical action taken to express and gain control over one's environment and situation. An empowerment thing for people not strong enough internally to reach out and take what they need.

Long live science, you superstitious motherfuckers.

thanks for your input, try checking what you write after, you have a few fuck ups in there.

my belief is paganism has been around forever, but im not going to try to convice you.

[This message has been edited by CaffeineJunkie (edited 08-28-2006).]

There's no such thing as Paganism. It was invented by Dan Brown as a cult for Bi-sexual, emo, goth losers that like to burn themselves and cast 'magick' on others because they made fun of them.

No, they're tapping into something which they don't understand and is infinatly more powerful than them.

Most of the beliefs are pretty much bullshit, but i guess quite interesting.

i really dont see why you would have to refuse to accept scientific fact if you are a pagan/heathen Gorloche.

Not that i no a lot about paganism mind you, im generally agnostic and have never been intrested in any religion other then buddhism, which seems to make the most sense to me.

Indeed im sure all major religions and many minor ones can work in hamrony with science if you dont take everything that religion commands in a literal fundamentalist way.

quote:Originally posted by diehard993:

There's no such thing as Paganism. It was invented by Dan Brown as a cult for Bi-sexual, emo, goth losers that like to burn themselves and cast 'magick' on others because they made fun of them.

if you knew anything and wicca, you'd know we don't "cast magick" on others. It aginst all we believe in.

EDIT: its not a cult

[This message has been edited by CaffeineJunkie (edited 08-30-2006).]

quote:Originally posted by Tortoisey:

i really dont see why you would have to refuse to accept scientific fact if you are a pagan/heathen Gorloche.

Not that i no a lot about paganism mind you, im generally agnostic and have never been intrested in any religion other then buddhism, which seems to make the most sense to me.

Indeed im sure all major religions and many minor ones can work in hamrony with science if you dont take everything that religion commands in a literal fundamentalist way.

Scientific fact? Maybe because we believe in something that we think has more power over science. Same with most major religions. Do you know how many people believe "god" "created" the world in 6 or 7 or how ever many days it is? You can't just aim that at Pagans or Wiccans.

I used to be an asatru believer but then discovered science and realized that all I believed was bullshit, this was about 5 years ago...

You should do the same.

quote:Originally posted by The Tormentor:

I used to be an asatru believer but then discovered science and realized that all I believed was bullshit, this was about 5 years ago...

You should do the same.

how old are you?

believes are believes

[malaria]

quote:Originally posted by The Tormentor:

I used to be an asatru believer but then discovered science and realized that all I believed was bullshit, this was about 5 years ago...

You should do the same.

Then you weren't Asatru. There is no dogma associated, and there certainly isn't anything denying science.

quote:Originally posted by CaffeineJunkie:



Scientific fact? Maybe because we believe in something that we think has more power over science. Same with most major religions. Do you know how many people believe "god" "created" the world in 6 or 7 or how ever many days it is? You can't just aim that at Pagans or Wiccans.

Science is a method by which we verify and explain phenomena of any kind.

To say something has more power than science is a completely meaningless thing. Anything that actually occurs can be put to the scientific method.

I recently started dating someone who claims to be Wicca. Just in case I decided to follow through with it I marked my calendar so I'll know when my year + 1 day is over.

The Book of Shadows I started reading seems pretty generic.

I don't think she will be interested in it next year, but we'll see.

I am officially neither, but paganism is what I generally associate myself with in terms of religion.

quote:Originally posted by Henry the VIII:

I recently started dating someone who claims to be Wicca. Just in case I decided to follow through with it I marked my calendar so I'll know when my year + 1 day is over.

The Book of Shadows I started reading seems pretty generic.

I don't think she will be interested in it next year, but we'll see.

you don't read a book of shadows, you write one

quote:Originally posted by Henry the VIII:

I recently started dating someone who claims to be Wicca. Just in case I decided to follow through with it I marked my calendar so I'll know when my year + 1 day is over.

The Book of Shadows I started reading seems pretty generic.

I don't think she will be interested in it next year, but we'll see.

Ew.

quote:Originally posted by CaffeineJunkie:

you don't read a book of shadows, you write one

Many practicioners of magick have their earlier Grimoires/Books of Shadow published so that others can learn from them.

quote:Originally posted by CaffeineJunkie:

you don't read a book of shadows, you write one

Please CJ, explain to me your beleifs... Don't take the easy way out and do what any rebellious 13 year old can do and copy and paste a link or some article you googled. Actually explain to me your beleifs and interpretations of the literature pertaining to your religion. Links to back up what you write would be appreciated. I'm not doing this to attack you or your beleifs, I am merely curious but if you claim to be one who isn't herded into this religion of yours like many, show it to me and the many others I am sure who are just as curious as me. I have run into a couple 'wiccans' on the internet and none were able nor willing to explain to me their beleifs. I mainly ask this of you because your beleifs are not shared as widely as say christianity.

[HandOfZek]

I'm a level 6 fire mage.

quote:Originally posted by HandOfZek:

I'm a level 6 fire mage.

WoW?

quote:Originally posted by Cooking with Zyklon B:



Please CJ, explain to me your beleifs... Don't take the easy way out and do what any rebellious 13 year old can do and copy and paste a link or some article you googled. Actually explain to me your beleifs and interpretations of the literature pertaining to your religion. Links to back up what you write would be appreciated. I'm not doing this to attack you or your beleifs, I am merely curious but if you claim to be one who isn't herded into this religion of yours like many, show it to me and the many others I am sure who are just as curious as me. I have run into a couple 'wiccans' on the internet and none were able nor willing to explain to me their beleifs. I mainly ask this of you because your beleifs are not shared as widely as say christianity.

It would be a lot easier if you asked specific questions that I could answer.



I believe in a main god and goddess, but I happen to think of the goddess as more important, I also believe there is a specific god and goddess for everything(for exapmle a river god and goddess.)I believe in reincarnation. I believe in Karma. I celeberate the sabbits.

can you ask me specific things you would like you know, Ill answer anyone questions.

quote:Originally posted by CaffeineJunkie:



It would be a lot easier if you asked specific questions that I could answer.



I believe in a main god and goddess, but I happen to think of the goddess as more important, I also believe there is a specific god and goddess for everything(for exapmle a river god and goddess.)I believe in reincarnation. I believe in Karma. I celeberate the sabbits.

can you ask me specific things you would like you know, Ill answer anyone questions.

I would have started with more specific questions, but I know nothing of your beliefs, so I left them more open ended.

What do you believe happens after you pass?

Karma is no longer religion specific as far as I have observed, however it was Buddhism I believe where it came from.

quote:Originally posted by Cooking with Zyklon B:

I would have started with more specific questions, but I know nothing of your beliefs, so I left them more open ended.

What do you believe happens after you pass?

Karma is no longer religion specific as far as I have observed, however it was Buddhism I believe where it came from.

after I pass reincarnation, meaningdepending on how you live your live you get reincarnated into a "better" one. and karma, as in what ever you do comes back, that includes in magic

quote:Originally posted by CaffeineJunkie:

after I pass reincarnation, meaningdepending on how you live your live you get reincarnated into a "better" one. and karma, as in what ever you do comes back, that includes in magic

This sounds more along the line of Buddhism to me. I also remember a teacher who had beleifs along these lines. She told us of her previous lives, where she was a butterfly as one and a cat as another... But in Buddhism, is one not supposed to remember his prefious life?

quote:Originally posted by Cooking with Zyklon B:



This sounds more along the line of Buddhism to me. I also remember a teacher who had beleifs along these lines. She told us of her previous lives, where she was a butterfly as one and a cat as another... But in Buddhism, is one not supposed to remember his prefious life?

like i said in chat almost the same i guess, beside the migic thing... i don't know much about it...

quote:Originally posted by diehard993:

There's no such thing as Paganism. It was invented by Dan Brown as a cult for Bi-sexual, emo, goth losers that like to burn themselves and cast 'magick' on others because they made fun of them.

your a jackass, end of

one. paganism has beeen round for thousands ofyears longer than christianty etc, it was the worlds most known religion untill the catholics ran around and killed most of them

two. paganism isn't a cult

three. dan brown wrote some unrealistic books-although a good read

four. you suck arse

quote:Originally posted by i saw a moose once:

your a jackass, end of

one. paganism has beeen round for thousands ofyears longer than christianty etc, it was the worlds most known religion untill the catholics ran around and killed most of them

two. paganism isn't a cult

three. dan brown wrote some unrealistic books-although a good read

four. you suck arse

well put!

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