Does anyone else see the Christian God as a spoilt brat?

I see the Christian God as a child who wants everyone to be their friend and play the game how it wants them to play it, but it’s ok, because it fucking loves you. And if you don’t buy that, it’ll throw a huge fit and use terrorism (saying ‘if you don’t do as I say, you’ll go to hell’ is terrorism) to get its own fucking way.

I’ve stated this before and no one has been able to properly refute it. If God knows all - past, present, and future - then he knows what we’re going to do before we do it; he knows every option and which one we’ll choose; therefore it is set in stone and we have no freewill. I’m not saying it is God controlling us, but in a sense it is, since he would of invented whatever it is - maybe, cause and effect - that has us in a deterministic world.

Don’t you find a God who punishes people for things they have no control over pathetic? Don’t you find a God who has the power to do away with all pain and leave only good - heaven, anyone? - disgusting? He’s allowing war, rape, murder, etc. but it’s ok that he’s doing this, because we have freewill, right? WRONG. He knew all this was going to happen when he made the world and he went ahead and did it anyway, and he didn’t change the fucking design. Doesn’t God have freewill? Either he doesn’t or he’s a sick bastard.

Then we have the problem with original sin. Ezekiel 18:20 states unequivocally that descendants are not to be punished for their parents' sins. Yet original sin punishes all descendants of Adam and Eve for something they did wrong. How fucking hypocritical!

You say God loves you unconditionally, right? But God set that fucking trap for man. Oh, yeah, he didn’t purposely leave a great big fucking tree full of evil in the garden and then go “now Adam, don’t you eat from that tree.” *wink, wink, nudge, nudge.* God is as bad as the serpent; I wouldn’t be surprised if God was the serpent.

Then there’s you fucks who understand original sin as personal guilt and sin. If Sin is of the soul, then we do not inherit it from our parents, but from God himself!

A lot of Christians tell me that God forces people to need his love. That’s fucking pathetic. A good parent raises their children to cope alone, only to ask for help in severe cases. God, however, would probably like to lock them up in a padded soul, only to come out to play with his genitals.

I have more to say on your ‘perfect’ God, but I can go on for ages and a lot of people on totse can’t seem to read more than two paragraphs.

yes.

you can't really look at god as a big parent figure on a cloud and have it make any sense.

quote:Originally posted by kenwih:

you can't really look at god as a big parent figure on a cloud and have it make any sense.

I wish Christians, literalists especially, would get that through their head and see how ridiculous the biblical god is.

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[Digital_Savior]

RP, it's "spoiled".

*coughs*

And funny you, the pot, calling the kettle black. Perhaps your argument will be easier to take seriously once you pick yourself up from your proverbial temper tantrum.

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

RP, it's "spoiled".

Grammar correction? *yawn* It can be spelt ‘spoiled’ or ‘spoilt’, you silly bint, you.

quote: And funny you, the pot, calling the kettle black. Perhaps your argument will be easier to take seriously once you pick yourself up from your proverbial temper tantrum.

I'm allowed to be petty, I'm not suppose to be the fucking creator of the universe.

Great refutations by the way. Oh, and I thought you weren't talking to me. LOL.

[Digital_Savior]

I can't recall the last time I have seen someone spell it "spoilt". While you are correct, it's a legitimate word, I can't see the reason in spelling it in a way that no one else does...and I read a LOT of literature. Suit yourself. *shrugs*

I told you I wouldn't continue addressing your points in the Orgins thread if you couldn't bring yourself to be civil. That is all I said. I didn't say I'd never speak to you again, anywhere else, nor did I say I wouldn't start talking to you again...here, or anywhere else.

Either way, this thread sucks.

You evidently don't read the books I do, but you really don't strike me as someone who would be a William S. Burroughs or Irvine Welsh fan.

And you've yet to disprove any of my points about your God.

[jackketch]

Digi, i know you're american and that that isn't your fault but trust me there other places on this planet , where we having been speaking english far longer than the US has, and where we commonly spell it spoilt... :P

Or should i say: where it is commonly and correctly spelt 'spoilt'? :P



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quote:Originally posted by Raw_Power:

You evidently don't read the books I do, but you really don't strike me as someone who would be a William S. Burroughs or Irvine Welsh fan.

And you've yet to disprove any of my points about your God.

It's because she can refute them, but just doesn't feel like it.

[Graemy]

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

spelt 'spoilt?

Consounance. I am american but i have seen it spelt spoilt in children's books let alone regular books.

that does make sense though.