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My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged.

 
 
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Old 2006-05-29, 10:36
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Today I asked my mother - who is a devout Christian - who she loved more, me or god. The answer she gave wasn’t the answer I expected: she said she loves me but loves god too, and loves and puts god before everyone else.

So I asked her if god told her to kill me would she. She got this smirk on her face, and tried to wiggle out of it. She said: “I’d have to think about it.” I’d have to think about it! She didn’t say no, she said “I’d have to think about it.” She also said “I don’t think I could kill you, but I also don’t think I could say no to god.”

Also, to try and make me feel better, she said my sister - who is also a devout Christian - knows this. This doesn’t upset my sister and she loves god more than everyone else too. Was this meant to make me feel better?

This really fucking hurt. I don’t believe in god, so to know my mother loves an imaginary being more than me, puts him before me, and might kill me if it told her to, really fucking hurt and upset me.

Religious people are so sick in the head. Fuck, I’m pissed.



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Old 2006-05-29, 10:51
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hahahahahah man! She coulda just said "I love God in a different way than I love you"...

She is maybe basing her idea of murdering you on the story of Abraham attempting to kill his son for God. Lets just hope you get exchanged with a lamb when your mommy gets told to a wack ya.
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Old 2006-05-29, 10:52
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You have every right to be, I have been left to think that those infected people are infact delusional
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Old 2006-05-29, 17:47
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That sucks dude ... If it makes you feel any better ... She's going to hell for a LOOOOOONG time.

Possibly...

or aosmehting else that'll make you feel better.

Ice cream?

Fairy cakes?

GODCakes?

Maybe we should punch god for stealing our women...er.... mothers...
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Old 2006-05-29, 17:52
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I have a cult they might want to join.
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Old 2006-05-29, 18:09
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Your mom loves me too.
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Old 2006-05-29, 20:31
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That's horrible. I don't think I could ever feel the same way about my parent again.



Edit: Adenochrome, do you have MSN/AIM?

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Old 2006-05-29, 20:33
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quote:That sucks dude ... If it makes you feel any better ... She's going to hell for a LOOOOOONG time.
Um. Or the opposite.

@ topic poster - become a Satanist. That is all.

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Old 2006-05-29, 20:34
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My parents love god more than me, too.
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Old 2006-05-29, 21:08
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Make sure you point out the difference between how much love they really feel and what how they think they're supposed to feel. Otherwise they might just end up saying something that isn't true to confirm their state of being a Christian.

If they are REALLY religious, they might actually love God more. Or if they're a loser with no friends and family. But otherwise, they might just be deluding themselves. Religious people have a way of doing that.
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Old 2006-05-30, 02:46
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I bet if it came down to the nut-cutting, she wouldn't be able to do it.

Hope that's a sliver of consolation to you.

P.S. You should challenge her with that. Be sure and sleep with one eye open from there on out, if she's really as devout as you say she is. You just never know about people.
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Old 2006-05-31, 05:39
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That seems like a good way to fuck with parents .
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Old 2006-05-31, 06:30
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quote:Originally posted by Elephantitis Man:

My parents love god more than me, too.
All you gotta do is get on the God Squad man! Then you can love God as much as your parents and they will love you for loving God as much as them and then its one big happy family...and God.

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Old 2006-05-31, 08:06
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Well if God really told her to kill you, then that would mean God really existed, and she would follow through with God's orders, because she loves God more than you.
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Old 2006-05-31, 08:21
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quote:Originally posted by anton_skater:

Well if God really told her to kill you, then that would mean God really existed, and she would follow through with God's orders, because she loves God more than you.
No, it wouldn't mean that God really exists. You don't think religious people can become delusional? Maybe they think they see a "sign" and therefore that means they're supposed to kill somebody. Or maybe they see the verses in the Bible that say if your son is unruly that you're supposed to take him to the town center and have him stoned.



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Old 2006-05-31, 08:29
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quote:Originally posted by Clarphimous:

[b] No, it wouldn't mean that God really exists. You don't think religious people can become delusional? Maybe they think they see a "sign" and therefore that means they're supposed to kill somebody. Or maybe they see the verses in the Bible that say if your son is unruly that you're supposed to take him to the town center and have him stoned.
I meant if God physically came down and talked to her. He did a similar thing in the bible to test Abraham. I believe in God, and I know I have never and will NEVER become dilusional like that. (I know you are going to say something along the lines that I am already dilusional, but it's just my belief.)

Edit: I made the whole thing a quote.





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Old 2006-05-31, 09:28
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My parents love Allah more than me. It ain't no thang, they don't treat me like shit, they still love me. Besides, I love Allah more than them so it evens out.
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Old 2006-05-31, 10:09
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quote:Originally posted by Loc Dogg:

My parents love Allah more than me. It ain't no thang, they don't treat me like shit, they still love me. Besides, I love Allah more than them so it evens out.
That is so fucked up.

Don’t you see?

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>

<LI> put god first

<LI> love god the most

<LI> don’t ask what god can do for you, ask what you can do for god

<LI> do everything god tells you to do

<LI> you’re a sinner and god is your only savour from his creation hell

<LI> it’s good to have faith, put all your faith in god (and become an illogical moron)

</UL>

If people do all that stuff and are encouraged to do all that stuff they become illogical zombies totally controlled by whichever religion they are a part of.

It seperates people, divides families, societies, causes animosity, hatred, self-righteous pomposity, insanity, murder, scientific regression.
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Old 2006-05-31, 10:15
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quote:Originally posted by Adrenochrome:

That is so fucked up.

Don’t you see?

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>

<LI> put god first

<LI> love god the most

<LI> don’t ask what god can do for you, ask what you can do for god

<LI> do everything god tells you to do

<LI> you’re a sinner and god is your only savour from his creation hell

<LI> it’s good to have faith, put all your faith in god (and become an illogical moron)

</UL>

If people do all that stuff and are encouraged to do all that stuff they become illogical zombies totally controlled by whichever religion they are a part of.

It seperates people, divides families, societies, causes animosity, hatred, self-righteous pomposity, insanity, murder, scientific regression.
Exactly what religion are you talking about?
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Old 2006-05-31, 10:21
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All the western religions. They all do that in one form or another.
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Old 2006-05-31, 10:58
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quote:Originally posted by Adrenochrome:

All the western religions. They all do that in one form or another.
It seems like your targeting Christianity.
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Old 2006-05-31, 11:05
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quote:Originally posted by Loc Dogg:

It seems like your targeting Christianity.
That's because that's the western religion I have the most understanding and the most loathing for.

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  #23   Add Abrahim to your ignore list  
Old 2006-05-31, 11:23
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I just never ask them "Do you love me more than God?" Because I don't want them to blasphemy...
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Old 2006-05-31, 11:35
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quote:Originally posted by Adrenochrome:

That's because that's the western religion I have the most understanding and the most loathing for.

Fair enough. They have done many naughty things. You think that's one of the reasons they protested The Da Vinci Code? It shows about the burning of innocent women and stuff.....

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Old 2006-05-31, 12:01
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Fair enough. They have done many naughty things. You think that's one of the reasons they protested The Da Vinci Code? It shows about the burning of innocent women and stuff.....
Ya, but I don't think people should blame a religion for the actions of its members. To each his own. Responsibility to the individuals.

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Old 2006-05-31, 12:39
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quote:Originally posted by Adrenochrome:

Religious people are so sick in the head. Fuck, I’m pissed.

So your mother would slice n' dice you if she thought God told her to?

I agree, there is a point at which religious belief becomes indistinguishable from paranoid schizophrenia.

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Ya, but I don't think people should blame a religion for the actions of its members. To each his own. Responsibility to the individuals.

If the members of that religion use its teachings as an excuse to further there own perverted ends, then the progenitor of that religion must ultimately be held responsible.

I hear the only reason Jesus isn't roasting in Hell for the actions of so called Christians is because his daddy is well connected...

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Old 2006-05-31, 23:27
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they can be very ignorant sometimes.
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Old 2006-06-01, 02:55
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How would she get the message from God that says "Kill your son." Seriously, how does she think it would happen?
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Old 2006-06-01, 03:01
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quote:Originally posted by Slave of the Beast:

If the members of that religion use its teachings as an excuse to further there own perverted ends, then the progenitor of that religion must ultimately be held responsible.

I hear the only reason Jesus isn't roasting in Hell for the actions of so called Christians is because his daddy is well connected...
So if I say "Do good for all" and someone feels killing someone would be good for them, I would be held responsible? I don't at all agree with that. Every individual is responsible for himself and his own actions towards himself and others.

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Old 2006-06-01, 05:50
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How would she get the message from God that says "Kill your son." Seriously, how does she think it would happen?
A text message.

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Old 2006-06-01, 06:05
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A text message.

God: lol he doesn't believe in me go kill him NOW NOW NOW lolzlzlzlzl LOLZLZLZLZLZ ROFLMAO

FlirtyMom68: k.
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Old 2006-06-01, 06:10
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God: LOL I GOT APPLE SAUCE ON MY EYE! DID YOU DO IT YET?!

FlirtyMom68: I love him, how could I do it?

God: You kno, I wrote a boom, I mean book, and its called THE BIBLE and do you kno what it says? Ok I don't have it with me right now but let me summarize: THOU SHALTETH OBEYETHETH GOD NOTHE MATTERTH WHATH HETHE SAYTH, ok?

FlirtyMom68: He's my son...

God: "Oh he's my son" REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED TO MINE? DO IT!
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Old 2006-06-01, 07:25
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quote:My mother told me she loves god more than me.
Pwned by God!

On a more serious note this among many reasons is why I am an atheist and my children will be raised atheist much as I was raised atheist by my parents before me. Say what you will about atheist parents at least with them you know that they won't put the interests of their imaginary friends ahead of your welfare.

Unless of course they are schizophrenic in which case your pretty much screwed.

In closing that Abrahim character is a real nut and cracks me up to no end.
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Old 2006-06-01, 08:07
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The answer is simple, just record some deep sounding male voice (or female if your mom thinks god is a woman) and say that you are god and demand that she kill herself to antone for her sin of idk, make something up, and then play it at night next to her head while she sleeps.

PS I'm drunk and your mom handled that situation horribly, people like that shouldn't be allowed to procreate.
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Old 2006-06-01, 08:51
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quote:Originally posted by FunkyZombie:

Pwned by God!

In closing that Abrahim character is a real nut and cracks me up to no end.
A nut?! I thought I was a bean! A human bean! *inverted claphter*

Do you have MSN, AIM, Yahoo? I want to add you!

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Old 2006-06-01, 09:53
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So if I say "Do good for all" and someone feels killing someone would be good for them, I would be held responsible? I don't at all agree with that.
God is responsible for everything that happens in the universe, as any action taken is a direct result of his creation.

Ergo, the buck stops with him and the prophets who claim to speak on his behalf.

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quote:Originally posted by Abrahim:

Every individual is responsible for himself and his own actions towards himself and others.
Absolutely.

And speech is an action, so if your speech results in someone being tortured to death in your name, then you must assume at least partial responsibility for the actions of your follower(s). You may not have given your followers a knife, but you may have given them reason to use one. If they kill with it then you are an accomplice to murder.

This applies without question when you know this will be an eventual consequence of your teachings which Jesus, as a semi divine being with an omniscient father, surely knew.





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Old 2006-06-01, 11:22
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Absolutely.

And speech is an action, so if your speech results in someone being tortured to death in your name, then you must assume at least partial responsibility for the actions of your follower(s). You may not have given your followers a knife, but you may have given them reason to use one. If they kill with it then you are an accomplice to murder.

This applies without question when you know this will be an eventual consequence of your teachings which Jesus, as a semi divine being with an omniscient father, surely knew.



Thou Shalt not Kill.

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Old 2006-06-01, 19:39
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if ur mum gets voices(scrizophenia)my advice is to get away mate
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Old 2006-06-01, 21:27
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Question is, why the fuck are you so dependent on your mother to love you? Really, if your emotions depend on your mother loving God more than you, you have serious issues.

Love yourself. If others love you, just as well, but do not let that fuck with your emotions. That you care about such a ridiculous question is pitiful.
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Old 2006-06-01, 21:37
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YEAH MAN! MOTHERLY LOVE IS SO OVER-RATED! *sucks teet*
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Old 2006-06-02, 08:16
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FUCK GOD!!!

join me and my quest of following thy holt table!!!

read my post on it!!! :x HOLY TABLE COULD SMITE GOD WITH ONE SPLINTER!!!
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Old 2006-06-02, 12:54
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quote:Originally posted by lemon cake:

FUCK GOD!!!

join me and my quest of following thy holt table!!!

read my post on it!!! :x HOLY TABLE COULD SMITE GOD WITH ONE SPLINTER!!!

THE ONLY WAY TO SALVATION IS FOLLOWING STOOL, THE SON OF THE HOLY TABLE! HE WAS SCRAPPED AND CHOPPED AND USED AS FIREWOOD FOR YOUR SINS!
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Old 2006-06-02, 15:43
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quote:Originally posted by Adrenochrome:

So I asked her if god told her to kill me would she. She got this smirk on her face, and tried to wiggle out of it. She said: “I’d have to think about it.” I’d have to think about it! She didn’t say no, she said “I’d have to think about it.” She also said “I don’t think I could kill you, but I also don’t think I could say no to god.”



You know what they say: "Attack is the best form of defense"
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Old 2006-06-02, 15:51
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just hope your mom never develops schizophrenia. lol.

EDIT: The guy a few post's above me feels the same way.

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Old 2006-06-03, 00:35
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if you turned into the next hitler, and god told your mother to kill you, it would probably be justified.
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Old 2006-06-03, 00:46
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remind her that jesus said that everytime you show love to your fellow man, you are showing love to god.

a true christian will love his fellow man just as much as he loves god.

i'm not even christian, and i know this.
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Old 2006-06-03, 20:18
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That sucks.

Tell her you love yourself more than her and God combined.

Well, maybe not.

Dude, you need to move away from this shit with your family, there is tons of stuff you can potentially do.
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Old 2006-06-04, 03:23
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Fuck her, tell her that "The Passion of the Christ" sucked and Jesus was black. See what she says
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Old 2006-06-04, 03:54
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1. If God told her to kill you, she's hearing voices, so I recommend psychiatric help.

2. Do your parents know you don't believe in God? She might have just been fucking with you, unless she's not that type of person--I don't know her, so I can't say.

I don't think she meant to hurt you, personally, from the way it was worded. But I can say this: get the hell out of there as soon as you can. Take this from a rational Christian
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Old 2006-06-04, 07:42
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quote:Originally posted by Abrahim:

Thou Shalt not Kill.

If you're going to present a strawmen at least have the decency to stuff some more straw in.
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Old 2006-06-04, 11:06
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quote:Originally posted by Slave of the Beast:

If you're going to present a strawmen at least have the decency to stuff some more straw in.

We're off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of MGCBTSOOYG
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Old 2006-07-05, 18:35
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get them before they get you remember the old saying kill or be killed it fine as long as you come out on top
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quote:Originally posted by darkshinigami:

get them before they get you remember the old saying kill or be killed it fine as long as you come out on top

i loled
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Old 2006-07-06, 09:42
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my parent loves ALLAH more than me and i like that and make me feel that i have a wonderful parents and love Prophet Muhammed (PBUH:Peace Be Upon Him) more than me and i like that to for the same reason and they know that i love ALLAH then Muhammed (PBUH)more than them and they like it everyone must love ALLAH more than anybody even himself because ALLAH gave us everything (Life,Health,Money,etc...) and many other reasons and we must pray to him a lot

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Old 2006-07-06, 10:56
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quote:Originally posted by TatesMan:

my parent loves ALLAH more than me and i like that and make me feel that i have a wonderful parents and love Prophet Muhammed (PBUH:Peace Be Upon Him) more than me and i like that to for the same reason and they know that i love ALLAH then Muhammed (PBUH)more than them and they like it everyone must love ALLAH more than anybody even himself because ALLAH gave us everything (Life,Health,Money,etc...) and many other reasons and we must pray to him a lot



Love of Allah, and Love of a Child should not be even comparable or in the same context. They don't love Allah like they love their child. Also there is no need to love the prophet, he was a simple messenger, but just a man, all religious adoration is for Allah.

You can love your child completely, and love Allah completely, because the love of a child and the love of God are not the same thing!
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Old 2006-07-08, 21:01
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quote:Originally posted by Abrahim:

Also there is no need to love the prophet, he was a simple messenger, but just a man



I desagree with that, The Prophet have been tortured by his enemy because he wants to do his message because of him u and me became Muslims he did many things for this Ummah and anyone [muslim or Non-Muslim] reads his life story will love him and soon i will post a topic talking about prophet Mohamed (PBUH)
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Old 2006-07-09, 01:14
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quote:Originally posted by TatesMan:

I desagree with that, The Prophet have been tortured by his enemy because he wants to do his message because of him u and me became Muslims he did many things for this Ummah and anyone [muslim or Non-Muslim] reads his life story will love him and soon i will post a topic talking about prophet Mohamed (PBUH)

k, but the Qur'an never mentions him being tortured, instead the Qur'an said he was protecting while giving the Qur'an and that no one can harm him. I do not believe in the Hadiths, they were written after Muhammed by people who were not present, furthermore the Qur'an is the guide and provides a good idea of how Muhammed was.

Also all the Prophets are equal, Muslims, they were messenger, deserve respect, but they do not ask for or want adoration, all adoration is for Allah, and this is what their message was: Not one of them said "Love me instead of God" there is a revelation about this in the Qur'an too.

They were all wonderful people according to the Qur'an who were righteous and upright, but they were servants of God like you and me, so dont love them, love God and follow the Qur'an.
 


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