It's RAISINS, not VIRGINS

[Digital_Savior]

"The famous passage about the virgins is based on the word hur, which is an adjective in the feminine plural meaning simply "white." Islamic tradition insists the term hur stands for "houri," which means virgin, but Mr. Luxenberg insists that this is a forced misreading of the text. In both ancient Aramaic and in at least one respected dictionary of early Arabic, hur means "white raisin." Source

Mr. Luxenberg has traced the passages dealing with paradise to a Christian text called Hymns of Paradise by a fourth-century author. Mr. Luxenberg said the word paradise was derived from the Aramaic word for garden and all the descriptions of paradise described it as a garden of flowing waters, abundant fruits and white raisins, a prized delicacy in the ancient Near East. In this context, white raisins, mentioned often as hur, Mr. Luxenberg said, makes more sense than a reward of sexual favors.

Additionally a friend of mine knows a professor who speaks and reads Arabic, and his specialty is the medieval period. He has an incredible gift for languages. Anyway, he explained to me that the Arabic language, like most languages, has evolved over time. So, modern Arabic is quite different that the Arabic used when the Koran was written. Back in Mohammed's time, white raisins were considered a delicacy, and the modern translation of the virgin thing, is a total mistranslation from the original. What they will actually receive when they meet Allah is 72 raisins, not virgins. Imagine the looks on their faces....

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Before you call for a lynching, I didn't write this, but I thought it was pretty funny. This isn't an anti-Islam thread, just a "be careful how you utilize ancient languages" thread.

Thanks Digital, very interesting



johnny

Bummer. Raisins are gross.

[King_Cotton]

http://tinyurl.com/zuvro

Scroll down to the "Raisins In Paradise" entry.

That made me chuckle.

[Digital_Savior]

ROFL

That's hilarious. Thanks !

Raisins are gross. Even white ones. *shudders*

[Digital_Savior]

quote:Originally posted by xtreem5150ahm:

Thanks Digital, very interesting



johnny

No problem, doll.

Fuck. I could resist the virgins, but now that its RAISINS...I just don't know if I can resist the urge to blow myself up.

quote:Originally posted by ShqipTAR:

Fuck. I could resist the virgins, but now that its RAISINS...I just don't know if I can resist the urge to blow myself up.

I agree. Thanks for clearing this up, Digi. Before, I had absolutely no incentive to become a Muslim. But 72 raisins!

All I can say to that is: "Allahu Akbar!"

[Digital_Savior]

[Digital_Savior]

Moussaoui got a life sentence, instead of the death penalty.

Since he won't die a martyr, does he lose his 72 raisins ?

dang...missing out on 72 white rasins because of the US judicial system...*tsk tsk tsk*

they're not blowing you up and knocking your buildings down to get virgins OR raisins, they're doing it because you finance israel, and you support the undemocratic rulers in their countries, who you keep in power while they ruthlessly torture their citizens. they also blow up russians, because russia kills thousands of chechens and afghans.

digital, you're pathetic.

Terminator, digital can be annoying because of some of her view points, but you're just play gay.

quote:Originally posted by coolwestman:

Terminator, digital can be annoying because of some of her view points, but you're just play gay.

luckily i don't care what you think.

quote:Originally posted by TerminatorVinitiatoR:

they're not blowing you up and knocking your buildings down to get virgins OR raisins, they're doing it because you finance israel

I agree with you, but holy shit, chill out man, this thread isn't meant to be very serious.

[IanBoyd3]

quote:Originally posted by Inti:

I agree with you, but holy shit, chill out man, this thread isn't meant to be very serious.

I agree. Taking digi seriously is a bad idea.

[Real.PUA]

quote:Originally posted by TerminatorVinitiatoR:

they're not blowing you up and knocking your buildings down to get virgins OR raisins, they're doing it because you finance israel, and you support the undemocratic rulers in their countries, who you keep in power while they ruthlessly torture their citizens. they also blow up russians, because russia kills thousands of chechens and afghans.

digital, you're pathetic.

No. They actually think they will go to paradise.