Catholics and Christians?

Are Catholics Christians?

Aren't they the ones who founded Christianity?

All Catholics are christians, but not all christians are Catholic.

The Catholic Church wasn't called that until the protestant reformation, so it would be wrong to say that all sects of christianity split from Catholicism. It would be correct to say that Catholicism is the remnants of early christianity though.

[Gorloche]

The sole requirement to be Christian, which is agreed upon by every major denomination, is to believe that Jesus Christ is your personal lord and savior. Catholics happen to believe that. it doesn't amtter what tlese they tag along with it; so long as they believe in Christ, all of their sins will be washed away. Either that, or God isn't omnibenevolent.

And now, we're going to hear how God can say he loves everybody while barring the gates to Heaven.

And to think I've become closer to God as an atheist than as a religious person... And they're going to use that part against me, too.

quote:Originally posted by quasicurus:

Are Catholics Christians?

Aren't they the ones who founded Christianity?

Christ founded Christianty.

quote:Originally posted by hyroglyphx:



Christ founded Christianty.

Isn't it ironic that "Christ" was not a christian?

quote:Originally posted by hyroglyphx:

Christ founded Christianty.

Actually, he never said anything about building churches, waging wars in his name, having human beings(the pope) with the right to excommunion you(condeming you to hell). He never said have ushers take up collections so priests can live off talking to masses of people who see them as "the equivilant" of Jesus. He never mentioned three crusades against muslims to steal thier land.

Somehow christians missed his most important teaching...

The one about love and acceptance.

Two things Christians throughout history have proved themselves incapable of.

And yes most likely there is spelling errors I just don't care.



[This message has been edited by Aft3r ImaGe (edited 04-14-2006).]

Isn't it ironic that none of this really matters. Aren't you all a little old to be having an imaginary friend?

quote:Originally posted by Atomical:

Isn't it ironic that "Christ" was not a christian?

Not really.

So who collected all that old documents, editted them and made them into a Bible?

Catholics or Christians?

quote:Originally posted by Gorloche:

The sole requirement to be Christian, which is agreed upon by every major denomination, is to believe that Jesus Christ is your personal lord and savior. Catholics happen to believe that.

Actually, we don't, but you can think whatever you want.

Paul, the apostle that never met jesus and was one of the pharisees that condemned jesus to the cross, was the one who created christianity.

being a christian doesnt have so much to do with believing in jesus, but more on believing in what paul wrote about jesus in his letters and epistles.

religion really confuses me.

[Fanglekai]

quote:Originally posted by postdiluvium:

Paul, the apostle that never met jesus and was one of the pharisees that condemned jesus to the cross, was the one who created christianity.

being a christian doesnt have so much to do with believing in jesus, but more on believing in what paul wrote about jesus in his letters and epistles.

QFT

quote:Originally posted by postdiluvium:

Paul, the apostle that never met jesus and was one of the pharisees that condemned jesus to the cross, was the one who created christianity.

being a christian doesnt have so much to do with believing in jesus, but more on believing in what paul wrote about jesus in his letters and epistles.

Paul wasn't the only person who had a role in the creating of christianity.

quote:"The continually progressive change to which the meaning of words is subject, the want of a universal language which renders translation necessary, the errors to which translations are again subject, the mistakes of copyists and printers, together with the possibility of willful alteration, are of themselves evidences that the human language, whether in speech or in print, cannot be the vehicle of the Word of God. The Word of God exists in something else."

[Thomas Paine, Age of Reason]

quote:Originally posted by napoleon_complex:

Paul wasn't the only person who had a role in the creating of christianity.

true. but through my studies i find that it is usually quotes from his epistles and letters to the churches that a lot of christian doctrine originates from. like the woman's role, conservative haircuts, the holy trinity (omitting the gospel of john, that is)... the list goes on.

quote:Originally posted by postdiluvium:

true. but through my studies i find that it is usually quotes from his epistles and letters to the churches that a lot of christian doctrine originates from. like the woman's role, conservative haircuts, the holy trinity (omitting the gospel of john, that is)... the list goes on.

Granted, though I don't think you can fairly criticize the Church for basing it's doctrine on the writings of someone like Paul, who was an incredibly intelligent theologian.