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| My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |
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2006-03-17, 09:24
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Opens google, enters 'errors in bible,' opens promising page, copy, *paste*
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quote: Here are a few of the contradictions:
Should we kill?
Ex. 20:13 Thou shalt not commit murder.
Ex. 32:27 Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, put every man his sword by his side...and slay every man his brother...companion..neighbor.(See also 1 Sam. 6:19; 15:2,3; Num. 15:36)
Ex 20:5 "...for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God..." (see also Ex 34:14, Deut 4:24, Josh 24:19, and Nah 1:2)
Gal 5:19-20 "Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are...jealousy..." (See also 2 Cor 12:20)
Should we tell lies?
Ex. 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness.(Prov. 12:22; Rev. 21:8)
1 Kings 22:23 The Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee. (II Thess. 2:11; Josh. 2:4-6 with James 2:25)
Should we steal?
Ex. 20:15 Thou shalt not steal. (Lev. 19:13)
Ex. 3:22. And ye shall spoil the Egyptians. (Ex. 12:35-36; Luke 19:29-33)
Shall we keep the Sabbath?
Ex. 20:8 Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. (Ex. 31:15; Num. 15:32,36)
Is. 1:13 The new moons and the Sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity. (John 5:16; Matt. 12:1-5)
Shall we make Graven images?
Ex. 20:4. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven...earth...water. (Lev. 26:1)
EX. 25:18 And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them.
Are we "saved" through works?
Eph. 2:8,9 For by grace are ye saved through faith...not of works. (Rom. 3:20, 28; Gal. 2:16)
James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.(Matt. 19:16-21)
Should good works be seen?
Matt. 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works. (I Peter 2:12)
Matt. 6:1-4 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them...that thine alms may be in secret. (Matt. 23:5)
Should we own slaves?
Lev. 25:45-46 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy...and they shall be your posession...they shall be your bondmen forever. (Gen. 9:25; Ex. 21:2,7; Joel 3:8; Luke 12:47; Col. 3:22)
Is. 58:6 Undo the heavy burdens...break every yoke. (Matt. 23:10)
Does God change his mind?
Mal. 3:6. For I am the Lord; I change not. Num. 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent. (Ezek. 24:14; James 1:17)
Ex. 32:14. And the Lord repented of the evil which he had thought to do unto his people. (Gen. 6:6; Jonah 3:10; Sam. 2:30-31; II Kings 20:1-6; Num. 16:20-35)
Are we punished for our parent's sins?
Ex. 20:5 For I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generations. (Ex. 34:7)
Ezek. 18:20 The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father.
Is God good or evil?
Psa. 145:9. The Lord is good to all. (Deut. 32:4; James 1:13)
Is. 45:7 I make peace and create evil. I the Lord do all these things. (Lam 3:38; Jer. 18:11; Ezek. 20:25)
Is God Peaceable?
John 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you. (Luke 2:14; Acts 10:36)
Matt. 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth, I came not to send peace, but a sword. (Matt. 10:35-37; Luke 22:36)
Was Jesus trustworthy?
John 8:14 Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true.
John 5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
Shall we call people names?
Matt. 5:22 Whosoever shall say Thou fool, shall be in danger of hellfire.
Matt. 23:17 (Jesus said) Ye fools and blind.
Has anyone seen God?
John 1:18 No man hath seen God at anytime. (Ex 33:20; Tim. 6:16; John 6:46; I John 4:12)
Gen. 32:30 For I have seen god face to face. (Ex. 33:11, 23; Is. 6:1; Job 42:5)
How many gods are there?
Deut. 6:4 The Lord or God is one Lord.
Gen. 1:26 And God said, let us make man in our image.(Gen. 3:22; I John 5:7)
Are we all sinners?
Rom. 3:23 For all have sinned. (Rom. 3:10; Psa.14;3)
Job 1:1 There was a man... whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright. (Gen. 7:1; Luke 1:5-6)
When was Jesus crucified?
Mark 15:22 and it was the third hour, and they crucified him.
John 19:14-15 And about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out...crucify him!"
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# 2
2006-03-17, 09:26
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.:six degrees of synesthesia:.
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*sighs*
You know that no one in their right mind is going to spend all that time in one thread.
Why don't you start one thread, get your answers, then go on to the next ?
I, for one, will not participate in this format, which I can guarantee you were counting on.
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# 3
2006-03-17, 09:36
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I agree with D_S. Too much stuff in 1 thread. Sort it out a bit.
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# 4
2006-03-17, 10:40
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LMAO, you guys just don't want to answer the questions because you know you can't.
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# 5
2006-03-17, 15:47
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First of all, many of those things are not the full line and put together to say something else.
Second, the bible is not ment to take literally. Many of the things said were so the people then could understand it. Then and today are didfferent, means different things today.
Just to say, the bible could have mistakes, I'm not saying if it does or doesn't, but the bible was written by people inspired by god to write it and most of the things written in the bible, people worte down from memories and stories passed down through the years.
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# 6
2006-03-17, 20:15
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.:six degrees of synesthesia:.
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quote:Originally posted by Adrenochrome:
LMAO, you guys just don't want to answer the questions because you know you can't.
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Ok, kidiot.
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# 7
2006-03-17, 20:19
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.:six degrees of synesthesia:.
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quote:Originally posted by Saphiria:
Second, the bible is not ment to take literally.
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Yes, it is.
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quote:Just to say, the bible could have mistakes, I'm not saying if it does or doesn't, but the bible was written by people inspired by god to write it and most of the things written in the bible, people worte down from memories and stories passed down through the years.
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And by the prompting of the Holy Spirit.
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# 8
2006-03-17, 20:25
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Ok, only one contradiction for those that claim the bible contains none.
Tell me, when jehoiachin began to reign how old was he?
(Don't just google this and trust sites, read your bible before you reply).
This is a simple error, nothing too huge but it does do two things, 1) proves the bible is not without error and 2) brings into question how accurate the rest is if the 'holy spirit' allowed such an easily correctable error to intrude in the good book.
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# 9
2006-03-17, 20:28
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quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:
And by the prompting of the Holy Spirit.
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Why don't you start killing babies and people in general then?
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# 10
2006-03-18, 14:58
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If you read the full passage of those things, and just not the one line it gives a different message. always read the whole thing, or you get something else
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#11
2006-03-18, 19:15 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
I'd say the strangest contradiction I've seen is this one:
Jesus' last words
Matt.27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."
Luke23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."
John19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
What did jesus say before he died?
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2006-03-19, 06:41 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
quote:Originally posted by ohhi:
Why don't you start killing babies and people in general then?
Because I'm not a JEW.
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2006-03-19, 06:42 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
Make a thread, Beta.
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#14
2006-03-19, 06:58 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
Why? this one should do fine.
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2006-03-19, 07:09 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
No, this one has 400 different supposed contradictions in it.
I would like to see some sort of organization to these types of threads, so they will be easily referencable in the future.
Don't you think that would help us all in the future ?
And yes, "400" is a slight exaggeration.  |
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#16
2006-03-19, 08:48 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:
Because I'm not a JEW.
You are reading a book that was written by jews for jews...
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2006-03-19, 10:02 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
That's funny, because I could have sworn the New Testament was written for everyone, but mostly gentiles.
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#18
2006-03-19, 21:04 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
quote:Originally posted by Heavens a Lie:
I'd say the strangest contradiction I've seen is this one:
Jesus' last words
Matt.27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."
Luke23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."
John19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
What did jesus say before he died?
The 3 different of the 3 different books remembered his death different ways so they say different things, you can't compare the 4 books too much cause they are written by different people and different people remember and write different ways so you get differnt results
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#19
2006-03-19, 21:13 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
quote:Originally posted by Saphiria:
The 3 different of the 3 different books remembered his death different ways so they say different things, you can't compare the 4 books too much cause they are written by different people and different people remember and write different ways so you get differnt results
You can compare them because they cover the same event. That is the logical reality.
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2006-03-19, 21:42 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
quote:Originally posted by Saphiria:
The 3 different of the 3 different books remembered his death different ways so they say different things, you can't compare the 4 books too much cause they are written by different people and different people remember and write different ways so you get differnt results
If the bible was Divinely Inspired and truly without error , there could be no discrepancy , as ultimatly the author was God.
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#21
2006-03-20, 05:51 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
the holy spirt(God) did inspire them to write the bible, but it didn't stand there and say word for word for what them to write. the writers wrote things down they remember seeing and hearing and asking others for their accounts.
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#22
2006-03-20, 06:37 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:
That's funny, because I could have sworn the New Testament was written for everyone, but mostly gentiles.
Back to Christianity 101 with you !
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2006-03-20, 07:07 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
Only what makes them look bad.
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2006-03-20, 13:13 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
quote:Originally posted by Saphiria:
the holy spirt(God) did inspire them to write the bible, but it didn't stand there and say word for word for what them to write. the writers wrote things down they remember seeing and hearing and asking others for their accounts.
If the writers depended on their imperfect memories and the memories of others, the bible could not possibly be without error. For the bible to be correct, the account of whatever was spoken or done would have to be be exactly the same.
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2006-03-20, 15:44 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
The bible is a collection of stories that the church put together, there are ones that say Jesus did bad things and was married ect, but the church didn't put it into the bible becuase 95% of the stuff says Jesus was a great mircle worker. The bible is the closet thing we have to perfect, we can't tell if its 100% true or not till we die.
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2006-03-21, 01:39 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
quote:Originally posted by Saphiria:
The bible is a collection of stories that the church put together, there are ones that say Jesus did bad things and was married ect, but the church didn't put it into the bible becuase 95% of the stuff says Jesus was a great mircle worker. The bible is the closet thing we have to perfect, we can't tell if its 100% true or not till we die.
If the people who put together the bible picked and chose the content , how can you even entertain the thought that it could be true and accurate?
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#27
2006-03-21, 16:05 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
people only started to write stuff about jesus about 35years AFTER his death, so most of the writing is someone going around asking for their stories that they have passed down through their familes since people did not live long during those times. The things written have a very very good chance that its true, the only reason something didn't make it into the bible is becasue they go against what everything say. Everything that was written was baised. so if you have 27 things about Jesus being a great mircle worker and like 10 things that says he was a horrible man, you're going to belive he was good cause you have more that backs it up.
No one can say the bible true or not till either the 2nd comming of Jesus, or we die and we find out.
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#28
2006-03-21, 16:15 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
bible=pointless irrelevant bullshit.
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2006-03-25, 07:10 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
clearly murder and killing were implying two different things.
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#30
2006-03-25, 10:42 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
The first post has yet to be answered. Nobody here can defend the Bible's silly contradictions.
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2006-03-31, 02:35 |
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Re: Refute these bibical contradications
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:
Yes it is.
^^ In reference to the bible being taken literally.
Actually, sometimes it cannot. Some things must be dug into a little bit because the basic appearance seems to contradict itself.
Elelphantitis man asked a few weeks ago about how many days Jesus was actually in the tomb. The scripture clearly states that he was in there for less than three days and three nights when broken down. His argument/question was that the bible says 3d/3n, but infact was in there for 3d/2n.
The bible does contradict itself if taken at face value here. The fact is that there is a very simple answer. Jewish custom was to extend lengths of time to a full day and night even if the time stopped in the morning. For instance, if you travelled for three full days and half of the next; they would have said "I travelled four days and four nights."
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