Judaism is better than Christianity for many reasons. I'm not going to go into much detail, but I will try and show the idea of why this is so.

First off, Jesus isn't as cool as Yahweh. Don't get me wrong; Jesus was a coolster. He started out poor but gathered many followers and became a cool heretic. He did cool things and made one of my favorite quotes: "Let the dead bury their own dead." The main problem with Jesus is that he always taught men to turn the other cheek. This isn't human. Men should behaved in a somewhat civilized manner, but they shouldn't be comeplete pushovers. If Jesus ruled the world and everyone were true Christians, everyone would be beggars. Nothing would get accomplished and society would stagnate. That's clearly not a good thing.

Judaism is better than Christianity becuase it's more like an actual coolster religion. It's a collection of the history and the culture of the Hebrews. Yahweh and the Hebrews stood for one thing - the Hebrews. I remember once, some guys circumcized everyone in a town so that they would be accepted by God. Then they killed everyone in the town! That's probably a bad example because I think that they ended up getting punished, but the Hebrews did what was good for the Hebrews and quite frankly, that was good for the Hebrews.

I'm not saying that everyone should convert to Judaism because it's cool. There are a great number of religions that are cooler than Judaism. Judaism was the religion of one culture, and it should stay the religion of that culture. I guess the main point is that Judaism is better than Christianity. Discuss.

Jesus isn't as cool as G-d?!

Of course he isn't. He was only a prophet.

You are right about not turning the other cheek, thing, though, IMO.

Why do you say it should only stay in one culture?

You do know you don't have to be of Hebrew descent to be Jew? Only your mother has to be Jewish for you to be considered Jewish. It's a little bit like being born into a nation. Kinda complicated.

Not really. In the Bible, God clearly discriminates against those of other cultures. If you're not Hebrew or good enough to be part of God's "posse" so to speak, you lose. He doesn't really care about you if that's so. I think people should follow the religion of their own culture instead of converting to the religion of some desert savages. Today, Christians call Islam savage, while in actuality, the Christian religion is and is descended from savages of the desert.

I get the discriminating part.

But I guess that only applies for Orthodox.

I'm Conservative, so I guess by their standards I'm going to hell .

quote:Originally posted by Mr. Idiot:

Of course he isn't. He was only a prophet.



No he wasn't. He stated he was the was God. So he was either:

A liar.

Crazy.

Or really was God 'in the flesh'.

But there's no way he was 'only a prophet'.

quote:Originally posted by Elephantitis Man:



No he wasn't. He stated he was the was God. So he was either:

A liar.

Crazy.

Or really was God 'in the flesh'.

But there's no way he was 'only a prophet'.

Where in the Bible does Jesus emphatically say "I am God"!?

quote:Originally posted by Slave of the Beast:

Where in the Bible does Jesus emphatically say "I am God"!?

quote:

John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

John 10:31-33 Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"

"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."

quote:Originally posted by Elephantitis Man:

[B]

John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

John 10:31-33 Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"

"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."

Your using the Jews misinterpretation of Christs words to support your argument?

Christ is expressing his bond with God, not stating that he is God...

quote:Originally posted by Slave of the Beast:

Your using the Jews misinterpretation of Christs words to support your argument?

Christ is expressing his bond with God, not stating that he is God...

If the Jews misinterpreted Christ's words, why didn't he simply correct them instead of dying over these 'misinterpretations'???

In expressing His 'bond with God', He is stating His level of divinity. Establishing that He is the only way into heaven.

*shits on thread*

yea, if youre a child molesting, two faced, parasitic, thieving liar, being a jew is better than being a christian.

quote:Originally posted by Elephantitis Man:

If the Jews misinterpreted Christ's words, why didn't he simply correct them instead of dying over these 'misinterpretations'???

In expressing His 'bond with God', He is stating His level of divinity. Establishing that He is the only way into heaven.[/B]

I am the door?

quote:Originally posted by Elephantitis Man:



If the Jews misinterpreted Christ's words, why didn't he simply correct them instead of dying over these 'misinterpretations'???

I am not going to try and second guess Christ.

quote:Originally posted by Elephantitis Man:

In expressing His 'bond with God', He is stating His level of divinity. Establishing that He is the only way into heaven.

Which is something completely different to directly claiming to be God... face it, you haven't got a shred of evidence to back up the claim that;

quote:Originally posted by Elephantitis Man:

He stated he was the was God.

Where do you get this drivel from? Which church do you belong to that claims that Jesus wasn't the Son of God, but was actually the God made flesh?



[This message has been edited by Slave of the Beast (edited 02-01-2006).]

quote:Originally posted by Slave of the Beast:

Where do you get this drivel from? Which church do you belong to that claims that Jesus wasn't the Son of God, but was actually the God made flesh?

Actually, this is the message most churches give now. That's partially why Christianity is dumb. There's no way that Jesus was a God.

quote:Originally posted by Elephantitis Man:



John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

John 10:31-33 Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"

"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."

What if GOD used JESUS as a MEDIUM. Therefore, God and Jesus are not the same.

Bitch.

*smears previous shit over the rest of the thread*

j00z.

Osiris89, doesn't that make him a prophet?

Jesus wasn't G-d, nor will any prophet after him. G-d is not a physical form, at least one we can see.

quote:Originally posted by Mr. Idiot:

Osiris89, doesn't that make him a prophet?

Jesus wasn't G-d, nor will any prophet after him. G-d is not a physical form, at least one we can see.

why don't you just call him god like everyone else?

Deutoronomy 12:3.

"Tear down their altars, smash their pillars, put their sacred posts to the fire, and cut down the images of their gods, obliterating their name from that site."

G-d's name is holy and should not be written casually, for fear of it being erased.

Like Islam

god god god sucks satans cock.

does this mean that i will go to hell?

or are you just deluding yourself? your life is gonna end like the rest of us, END, you die, THE END.

Psykadelic - No, not like Islam.

TerminatorVinitiatoR - No one said you were going to hell. It is simply what we believe. Of course my life is going to end. For all I know it might end right now. Why do you say that I am deluding myself?

Islam>

?

there's no afterlife, no "other" there is no such thing as god.

I would think that Jesus was somewhat less than what he is made out to be by stories. Most people in myths are glorified or anathematized. I would believe that it would be the same for Jesus.

G-Zus was a pimp, no question.

I don't believe you.

quote:Originally posted by TerminatorVinitiatoR:

there's no afterlife, no "other" there is no such thing as god.

I never said that there was. The point wasn't about which is true, but rather what is cooler.

Jesus got stoned too much

What do you mean he got stoned too much?

Nice play on words.