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| My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |
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#1
 2005-10-02, 11:43
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Pueb 
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Finding Love or Friends in Heaven and Hell
Lets say some guy died at age 20 and went to hell...cos he raped a cat or something. If he didnt find his loved one whats that mean. Can you find love or friends in hell and can you even talk to people in hell!?.
Now lets say a woman dies at age 21 cos she told on the rapist cat guy, then he stabbed her and she goes to heaven. Are you allowed to talk to people in heaven just like here?..
and what its like to you. Is there buildings or is it like cloud-ville...
Yeah..thats it!
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#2
 2005-10-02, 12:15
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Re: Finding Love or Friends in Heaven and Hell
You don't really except someone to answer those questions right..
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#3
 2005-10-02, 12:28
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Pueb 
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Re: Finding Love or Friends in Heaven and Hell
No....
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#4
 2005-10-02, 16:43
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Paradise Lost 
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Re: Finding Love or Friends in Heaven and Hell
You watched that movie What Dreams May Come, right?
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#5
 2005-10-03, 02:46
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Pueb 
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Re: Finding Love or Friends in Heaven and Hell
Ummm no I didnt watch that, any good!?
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#6
 2005-10-03, 03:33
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Re: Finding Love or Friends in Heaven and Hell
Supposing that hell is indeed a real place and is described accurately as your nearest hell-bearing book is concerned, its going to be too hot for you to care.
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#7
 2005-10-03, 22:44
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Re: Finding Love or Friends in Heaven and Hell
Heres a neat scenario:
A good "saved" god-fearing person is murdered and goes to Heaven. His murderer feels bad, repents and goes on to live a nice Christian life. As a result of this he also goes to Heaven.
So what happens if the two meet each other in Heaven? I bet that'd be pretty awkward.
Edit: Spelling
[This message has been edited by TheLaUghiNgHeretic (edited 10-03-2005).]
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#8
 2005-10-04, 04:02
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Re: Finding Love or Friends in Heaven and Hell
Revelation 7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
There'll be no saddness in Heaven. But According to Paul, he was so messed up in the spirit that he couldn't tell if he was in the spirit or in the Body, "God knoweth." Only God knew.
So it seems to be we still LOOK the same in the spirit as we do in the Body, but I highly doubt you're going to be able to talk to someone in Hell. If there's not saddness in Heaven, I couldn't see myself looking down on a bunch of people tormented day and night, without being sad for them.
[This message has been edited by HellzShellz (edited 10-04-2005).]
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#9
 2005-10-05, 02:04
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Re: Finding Love or Friends in Heaven and Hell
quote:Originally posted by TheLaUghiNgHeretic:
Heres a neat scenario:
A good "saved" god-fearing person is murdered and goes to Heaven. His murderer feels bad, repents and goes on to live a nice Christian life. As a result of this he also goes to Heaven.
So what happens if the two meet each other in Heaven? I bet that'd be pretty awkward.
Edit: Spelling
If the victim was indeed a Christian, he is obgligated to forgive his murderer. Besides, he'd probably thank his murderer for sending him to heaven sooner. 
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#10
 2005-10-05, 03:03
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Keltoiberserker 
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Re: Finding Love or Friends in Heaven and Hell
Where do evil masochists go?
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#11
 2005-10-05, 22:40
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Re: Finding Love or Friends in Heaven and Hell
in hell you'll be able to hear eveyone screaming in pain, but you'll never be able to get to them.
In heaven it'll be like one big party, everyone will be happy. There will be no grudges, there is no sin in heaven.
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#12
 2005-10-06, 00:03
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Re: Finding Love or Friends in Heaven and Hell
there are no parties without sin
if hell is the absolute most horrible place, and the idea of torture is fire, then that makes fire something evil. for only taht which is apart from god can be in hell. (even though god is omnipresent, we'll ignore that he'd have to be in hell too for it to logically function)
Essentially you're saying that fire is evil (against god). so what about jesus using lamps and the parable of the bridegrooms who were supposed to have extra oil for their lanterns? doens't work if fire is evil. fire can't be evil, for it is one of god's creations. he called everything good.
the end result is that hell can't have fire. it has to be a place of non-being, not of firey death.
needless to say, i don't believe in it.
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#13
 2005-10-06, 01:14
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Re: Finding Love or Friends in Heaven and Hell
quote:Originally posted by Fanglekai:
there are no parties without sin
if hell is the absolute most horrible place, and the idea of torture is fire, then that makes fire something evil. for only taht which is apart from god can be in hell. (even though god is omnipresent, we'll ignore that he'd have to be in hell too for it to logically function)
Essentially you're saying that fire is evil (against god). so what about jesus using lamps and the parable of the bridegrooms who were supposed to have extra oil for their lanterns? doens't work if fire is evil. fire can't be evil, for it is one of god's creations. he called everything good.
the end result is that hell can't have fire. it has to be a place of non-being, not of firey death.
needless to say, i don't believe in it.
Pre-Jesus, sins were paid for via burnt offerings. God also protected the Hebrews as they fled the Egyptians as a 'pillar of fire'. Fire is neither good nor evil.
Also, hell is absence of God in a personal sense. On earth, when one cries out to God, he listens. In hell, when one cries out, God ignores them because they are damned. That doesn't necessarily mean a part of him isn't there. He is sees and knows all that goes on in hell.
quote:Psalm 139:8
If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
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#14
 2005-10-06, 02:54
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Re: Finding Love or Friends in Heaven and Hell
quote:Originally posted by Elephantitis Man:
Also, hell is absence of God in a personal sense. On earth, when one cries out to God, he listens. In hell, when one cries out, God ignores them because they are damned.
Well that certainly explains why prayer to God is just as effective as prayer to the kichen table or no prayer at all.
We've all died and gone to hell, of course!
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