Why do people argue about "my religion is the right one" and "s/he's going to hell"? No one knows untill they die, and they can't tell anyonewhen the do. So how about people just shutin' the hell up and let people believe what they want? Its not like they can really give solid, physical proof that their religion exists. Actually, I think there's no proof that we exist, but that's going off topic.

Oh no I can give you absolute proof that religion exists, now whether those religions are correct is a whole 'nother matter.

People argue over religion because they are mutually antagonistic. You can't have separate groups claiming they're both correct.

Solipsism is for another thread.

Well people argue about which religion is the right one because of many reason's. And some people don’t, it's all a matter of perspective I guess. Christians think there’s only one god- Their god. And to tell them that they're wrong otherwise is basically like saying "Hey fuck you asshole your religion is wrong." That’s why people like to argue about their religion because they feel like their faith is being insulted, perhaps even threatened by a ignorant non-believer whenever their religion comes into question.

And like I said, not all people think that their religion is the only true religion. Small tribes in South America have their own gods and don’t even bother thinking about other people's god. They just say "yeah, that’s nice" and move on with their lives.

And the thing is that alot of religious people think that they do know the truth because their god told them the truth. And to tell them otherwise is basically like say "Hey fuck you dude and fuck your lying piece of shit god as well".

See it's all a matter of faith. No "true" believer thinks that they lack proof that their god or gods exist because they have faith in their religion. See faith overrules logic and that’s why there are alot of seemingly stupid religious practices out there.

So fuck it, fuck it all. Chances are we'll all understand it all someday until then I'm just going to ramble on incoherently and wish things were different.

Well the way I see it…there can only be one right religion. Especially since most religions contradict eachother. You cant have 2 right answers that say the other one is wrong…that defies logic. I think its actually I scientific law or something…so if only one is right…then u better figure it out before its too late

quote:So how about people just shutin' the hell up and let people believe what they want?

Because the believers won't just shut the hell up, they feel that they have to voice their opinion if something is taking place that is against their religion.

maybe whatever god there is created all the different religions just to fuck with us, and watch us fight over all this shit, and so it could laugh at us cuz we're all wrong

on-topic: it's human nature to assume you're right and everybody else is wrong, and to be pissed if you're wrong, so people made things that can't be proved wrong, and yet assume that everybody else's unprovable religions are wrong

it's pretty hypocritical, but i think it's just human nature

why



why do athiests keep posting in the religion forum

quote:Originally posted by qazwsx:

why do athiests keep posting in the religion forum

Athiests can post here just as much as any religious person. Discussion on religions falls in this category. If someone wants to say god doesn't exist that falls in here.

athiesm in the religion forum is dickwaving

let us talk about our crazy shit if you don't like it

quote:Originally posted by qazwsx:

athiesm in the religion forum is dickwaving

let us talk about our crazy shit if you don't like it

Not all the atheists in this forum say you can't believe in the crazy shit. Talk about it all you like but if atheists don't post their opinion here where would you like us to? Atheists have just as much right to post how god doesn't exist as you have to post about how he/she/they do.

honestly I'm probably not alone in being completely tired of hearing the same trite, self-important bullshit over and over

petition an athiesm forum if you want to talk about athiesm, because this is the religion forum

I'm just saying it sucks to have a good topic ruined by too many people saying the same shit (not to mention too many threads on the same shit)



[This message has been edited by qazwsx (edited 08-17-2005).]

Oh I see anything that you disagree with should get the fuck out of your thread or forum. I got you.............

no, we really do need half the threads being on one topic

all i meant to say was that people cling to things that can't be proved wrong and assume they're right

atheists assume that they're right w/o proof just the same as any other religion, it's not an atheism thing

i'm just putting in my two cents on the human nature behind all religions, including atheism

quote:Originally posted by crazygoatemonky:

all i meant to say was that people cling to things that can't be proved wrong and assume they're right

atheists assume that they're right w/o proof just the same as any other religion, it's not an atheism thing

i'm just putting in my two cents on the human nature behind all religions, including atheism

Yes, Athiests choose not to believe because there is not proof. Religious people choose to believe because there is no proof against it. Because of this you can't say either is right or wrong and you can't prove or disprove either.

quote:Originally posted by crazygoatemonky:

atheists assume that they're right w/o proof just the same as any other religion, it's not an atheism thing

I never once claimed to be right about anything. I openly accept the idea that a supreme being could exist.

quote:Originally posted by Paradise Lost:

I never once claimed to be right about anything. I openly accept the idea that a supreme being could exist.

which i certainly respect, i was just trying to make sure i didn't come across as "dickwaving" or "trite, self-important bullshit", or get my point ignored completely because i don't subscribe to organized religion

EDIT: i reread your post, and i don't mean anybody in particular, or even anybody on totse, i just mean major religions, evangelists, and people as a whole, millions of people believe what the major religions tell them without question

[This message has been edited by crazygoatemonky (edited 08-18-2005).]

qazwsx-

Thank you. You are perfect proof that most religons are arrogant and intolerant of other beliefs.

ahahah, shut the fuck up



you just said 1 individual is enough to condemn a whole group, hitler?

I'm not even religious, but the proof of god's existence is in all of us

quote:Originally posted by Paradise Lost:

Oh no I can give you absolute proof that religion exists, now whether those religions are correct is a whole 'nother matter.

People argue over religion because they are mutually antagonistic. You can't have separate groups claiming they're both correct.

Solipsism is for another thread.