I know my threads often get deleted here. Understandable, Im A spamming lil shit but hear me out this time. I have a serious qeustion. cane and able had to have sex with there sisters right? Then kain kills able and is marked with a mark of some sort right? The mark is meant to alert people of his evil? (sp) and kill him? what people? they had to have sex with there siblings right?

P.S how could the devil rebel if there is no free will for angels?

FYI it was CAIN. And i do not recall anything about him or ABEL shagging their sisters.

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

FYI it was CAIN. And i do not recall anything about him or ABEL shagging their sisters.



But they had too!! thats what Im saying. think about it

unless there were other humans mad at the time wich it doesnt say either. so wich is it?

The reason your threads have been closed is because they not fit the description.

As this thread can actually provide discussion I shall leave it be, but please go remove that PS it has been discussed in other threads.

-Val

[This message has been edited by Valmont (edited 07-13-2005).]

quote:Originally posted by Magnus_Ungermax:

cane and able had to have sex with there sisters right? Then kain kills able and is marked with a mark of some sort right? The mark is meant to alert people of his evil? (sp) and kill him? what people? they had to have sex with there siblings right?

Yes, they... well, probably not Abel. As you pointed out, Cain killed Abel. There is a third son mentioned by name.. Seth. The Bible also says that Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters.

We are not told how old Cain and Abel were when the murder happened. Nor are we told whether or not they had any kids at that time... however, since the Bible makes no mention of Abel having kids, i think it is fair to assume that he didnt.

I'm wondering if part of your question has something to do with incest taboo. Or maybe that the inbreeding would have caused birth defects.

First part (incest): At that point, God had not yet commanded that it is wrong.

Second part (birth defects): If the Bible is the literal truth, then all people came from Adam and Eve... which God had created and declared 'good'. So until the first sin (and the first birth), there would not have been any genetic mutations. It would have been a downward spiral for awhile, until the population got more distant.

right, The second part of my qeustion was nowhere to be understood because I was fucked up when writing it. he has this mark right? what people are around to kill him for it if the only humans at the time were his emidiate family?

quote:Originally posted by Valmont:



As this thread can actually provide discussion I shall leave it be, but please go remove that PS it has been discussed in other threads.

-Val



Whether it has been discussed or not, there may be some who have yet to SEE it discussed. New members all the time.

I would like it to remain, personally.

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

Whether it has been discussed or not, there may be some who have yet to SEE it discussed. New members all the time.

I would like it to remain, personally.

K, I erased it already but I am still curious so here it is. If angels have no freewill, How did satan rebel?

First, I want to say that I am a Christian. I know a great deal of the Bible, but not near all of it.

I do not remember the Bible saying that angels had no free will.

Heck, it is not even specified that humans DO, specifically !

Do you have a verse that supports this lack of free will ?

Thanks.

well I dont know much of what Im talking about but this is what Ive heard. I could possibley be thinking of paradise lost actually but I thought satan rebelled because he was more beautiful than god in that book

its me magnus. forgot to swich names

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quote:Originally posted by Magnus_Ungermax:

right, The second part of my qeustion was nowhere to be understood because I was fucked up when writing it. he has this mark right? what people are around to kill him for it if the only humans at the time were his emidiate family?

The mark was not so that others would kill him. God placed the mark to warn others not to kill Cain.

Sorry, i thought that in a way, i kinda covered this. Yes, those people would have been his family. Adam lived over 900 years. He had other sons and daughters besides the 3 sons that are mentioned. I dont recall if the Bible says how long Cain lived, but Seth lived over 900 years and had sons and daughters besides Enos... do you see where this is going? With long life spans and many children, each generation could have increased the population quite a bit.

Sorry, have to run. It's time to leave for work again.