I've come to a point in my life where i am looking for whats out there, and of course god or some thing. it's just i have trouble accepting if he is real.

i know this is a personal thing, i have a bible, but no one in my family are religious.

about 2 years ago i was looking for god but i lost intrest but something keeps bringing me back to religion and god.

i like catholic because of confession but christianity is cool also as i guess you confess in prayer?

i guess i am just rambling at the moment, so i ask of you totseians, why do you believe what made you belive? and what should i do to help my faith.

and what parts should i read in there bible?

i try to define my personal doctrine by the bible and not the other way around.

what to read? just start and read til something 'speaks to you' and whatever else you do, don't go and ask christians what something in the bible means.



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I believe I'm a frog. Ribbit!

You need help 'finding God'...why, is he lost...[just a little inappropriate humour there]

If God is real...'He' is in everything...

Books, doctrine,...etc...are merely man's experiences in their search for God (and 'self', I must add)...and are limited, at best...

The closest I have come is the opinion that 'love' is the starting place, because...if God is real...that is where He may be found inside us...

[...hmmm...is there such a thing as an agnostic christian...???]

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quote:Originally posted by Streetvision:

and what parts should i read in there bible?

Search here and find a very good version of the bible.

I have the Tanakh...The Jerusalem Bible...and assorted other version...not highly schollarly though.

I would go with the Tanakh...Read from beginning to end...then move on to the Testaments since they quote the OT and you will have a clearer understanding of what is being said...

Steer clear of fundy's though...

[If I joined a religious group...it would probably be a jewish group...never met a Jew I did not like.]

Here's a nice little link that a friend sent to me:

http://www.internetparodies.org/interview/

You know i found god one day ,.... i was walking my ass around the streets when god was just kinda standing smoking a joint .... so i came out of the shadows and BAM i smashed him in the face, not so divine that i couldnt kick his ass ,mug him ,and smoke his joint over his semi concious body.....

Please do not seek God through a denomination. Seek God through his written word. I can go through and give bible verses for each religion that leaves something out of the bible and bases their beliefs off of what they didn't take out.

Here's a sweet little story. A little girl goes to church with her bible. After service she walks up the the preacher with a bible that has only the front and back hard covers, and the preacher says, "We need to get you a new bible, because all the pages are missin'." The little girl says, "Oh, it's no use. I only rip out what you preach against."

Get yourself in a word faith church.

Don't listen to hellzshellz you cannot solely find God through the bible ( or Thora or Kuran etc. ). Find it through your mind. Not that I dislike the holy books, mind you, I think they are good for teaching morals. But essentially, worshiping a 'god' is simply striving to live your life by morals which seem correct to you. It would only be foolish to think that one book ( the bible for example ) is correct, and all others are wrong.

Oh, and if you do it because you want to go to heaven, I think that a true merciful god would send any man who lived his life virtuously (sp?) to his Nirvana/Valhalla/Heaven. Because quite frankly, I think none of todays religions are 100% correct. I do believe in some sort of god, or higher being, though. But I don't think something that is so powerful that he could create something of enormous complexity like our universe would restrict his followers to a religion.

I would advise you to make up your own religion, your own way of life, based on the morals that you consider important. It is key to a happy life and inner peace, too.

quote:Originally posted by Dre Crabbe:

But essentially, worshiping a 'god' is simply striving to live your life by morals which seem correct to you.



I agree with a lot of what you say...except that 'worshipping God' has little to do with morals...morals reflect the 'god' you worship though.

Maybe I misunderstand what you're saying here?

Instead of 'looking for what's out there', look within.

quote:Originally written by George Harrison:Without going out of my door

I can know all things on Earth

Without looking out of my window

I could know the ways of Heaven

The farther one travels

The less one knows

The less one really knows

Without going out of your door

You can know all things on Earth

Without looking out of your window

You could know the ways of Heaven

The farther one travels

The less one knows

The less one really knows

Arrive without traveling

See all without looking

Do all without doing



Look in yourself.

quote:Originally posted by HellzShellz:

Please do not seek God through a denomination. Seek God through his written word. I can go through and give bible verses for each religion that leaves something out of the bible and bases their beliefs off of what they didn't take out.

Here's a sweet little story. A little girl goes to church with her bible. After service she walks up the the preacher with a bible that has only the front and back hard covers, and the preacher says, "We need to get you a new bible, because all the pages are missin'." The little girl says, "Oh, it's no use. I only rip out what you preach against."

Get yourself in a word faith church.



i ain't sure what a 'word faith church ' is but it sounds horribly american.

whatever they are, the chances are that they also ignore large chunks of scripture.

Just remember that there is more to God than christianity.

well my fine young friend i suppose u should start in the simpliest places first look and c how great he's made us so we will live me peace and harmy he made of different colors i mean making us different colors diffenetly doesn't make us turn against each other then the bible is littered with self correction i mean that makes perfect sense 2 me and that' diffenetly a place 2 find god and an even better place 2 find god is 2 walk in the deepest darkest ally u can find and u will c just how kind the human race is 2 each other that's gods love and remember no matter what don't b a proud person and the first commandmet is there shall b no other god then thou shalt not take the lords in vain as humble as jesus and god r those r the top 2 commandments that diffenetly doesn't contradict itself o almost 4got the other one Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them. that's no where near being a proud mmmmm remember the 4th no work on sunday no matter what well that one's got it's own problems and no matter what honor ur father and mother ha if ur mom and dad beat the shit out of u and play with u in the night under the cover's honor them don't u dare say one bad thing about them next thou shall not kill eye 4 an eye nah that's no where near being contradictery don't commit adultery no matter what don't do it and don't steal hell no don't still i mean look @ how god asked marry if she wanted his baby diffenetly don't steal and ur neighbor he's a good guy yeah he kicked ur dog well he shot him 2 but don't tell the cop he was drunk when he ran in the ditch when he wasn't just so u can c him go though a subrity test and don't mess with texas i mean ur neighbor's shit yeah he can come over and borrow ur shit but don't u dare ask 2 borrow his i mean there's god that's what makes humans and life so fucking prefect i mean fuck how much better can it b

I think we'd need to define what God is before someone can find him.