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My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged.

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 #1 
Old 2005-06-21, 02:20
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Default Do you want to die?

My question to many of you is simple:

Do you wish to die at some point, or do you wish to live forever?

I was thinking, if robots and computers become sophisticated that you could upload your personality, memory, thought processing procedure, etc. etc. into it's HDD and hardware, could you live forever as a robot?

The way I see it, humans cannot comprehend a reason to live aside from reproducing and protecting their own neck. So if one were to do such a thing, would they even feel a reason to live, would they want to live anymore once they were granted eternal life?

It's kind of ironic, I believe that if I were 90 years old and dying (god forbid a monster such as I should live that long), I would feel a desperate desire to live longer and see and do more. But if I was a robot, I might feel indifferent to reality and the universe entirely. I might wish to be deactivated permanently. Or perhaps I would want to live to see the end of the universe.

To quote the movie Donny Darko, "What's the point of living, if you don't have a dick?"
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Old 2005-06-21, 03:39
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I don't want to have to wipe my ass forever, no.

Cheers,

Lost
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Old 2005-06-21, 03:41
UnknownVeritas UnknownVeritas is offline
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I've always been curious about what may occur in death.

Bring it on...
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Old 2005-06-21, 14:15
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You make an interesting point. I suppose id like to live forever. Im curious of newer and newer scientific advances, why not see them all before we kill ourselves?

Of course, downloading our brains to a hard disk is under any circumstances not a good idea. With terabytes upon terabytes of information, one bit of information can make the difference between genius and retarded. Science hasnt made a storage device that protects and keeps all information for more than a hundred years or so. Not only that, the storage to contain all of the data is centuries down the road. I did however read that around 2050-2080 brain downloads will be available to the masses.

[This message has been edited by ArgonPlasma2000 (edited 06-21-2005).]
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Old 2005-06-21, 14:18
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quote:Originally posted by UnknownVeritas:

I've always been curious about what may occur in death.

Bring it on...



Couldn't have said it better myself.

I hope to live maybe 50 or 60 years, but that's enough for me.
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Old 2005-06-21, 15:07
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If I could live forever without aging then sure, why not?

There are a lot of things that I would like to do before I die. But I wonder, if I knew I would live forever, how much longer would I put these things off?

Maybe we need a sense of urgency to make the most of life.
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Old 2005-06-21, 17:46
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interesting.

Yeah I know the technology to do something like that isn't around yet, but with technology/time acceleration becoming near asymptotic, i don't think it's too far around the bend.
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Old 2005-06-21, 18:24
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not forever, but maybe a little longer. But I'm sure that when i'm 90 and i have no one, i'm not really gonna care.
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Old 2005-06-21, 19:34
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I do want to die at some point. It is impossible to appreciate life without the fear of it ending. I'm not afraid of death either, I'm curious to experience that point of no return.

Actually, I think dying is one of the greatest things we ever do. Imagine how profound your final thoughts would be.
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Old 2005-06-21, 19:47
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You cannot live forever as a robot. A LONG, long time, but you wouldn't even be you. It'd be a copy of you, only you to other people. You would be long gone. Read my theory on immortality in mad scientists.
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Old 2005-06-21, 20:08
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quote:Originally posted by UnknownVeritas:

I've always been curious about what may occur in death.

Bring it on...

My thoughts as well.
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Old 2005-06-21, 20:10
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i wish i was never alive

now that i am death will be a relief
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Old 2005-06-21, 20:31
Shaokhano Shaokhano is offline
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if by some reason r another i was granted immortaly i would kill the human race then find a way 2 kill me but the short answer is no i don't wish 2 live any longer than i have 2
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Old 2005-06-22, 01:34
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...You really don't have a choice in the matter...

...and the true meaning of that statement is the more "fictitious" one...
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Old 2005-06-22, 06:49
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quote:Originally posted by Cojax:

You cannot live forever as a robot. A LONG, long time, but you wouldn't even be you. It'd be a copy of you, only you to other people. You would be long gone. Read my theory on immortality in mad scientists.

that's another hitch i'm afraid of, would it even be you without the biological backing? you wouldn't feel it, it'd just be a created life exactly like you. a clone, but YOU YOURSELF wouldn't feel it. I mean, identical twins don't share souls.
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Old 2005-06-22, 08:51
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Too bad, even if we were ageless (this will happen in the next 60 yrs or so) we would only live to 1000 or so. We do too many dangerous things and one of them [/i]will[/i] kill us. Other thatn that I would love to be able to live long enough to bild myself a fully functional spaceship like the one obi-wan has in the end of sw episode 3.
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Old 2005-06-22, 16:28
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I would never want to live forever. Sometimes I can barely find something to do on a rainy day. How in the world would I live forever without being bored to death? :/
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Old 2005-06-22, 22:14
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quote:Originally posted by LostCause:

I don't want to have to wipe my ass forever, no.

Cheers,

Lost

You should get an automated cyst installed. Hey, cybernetics are the future.
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Old 2005-06-25, 18:42
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Bacteria can live an awfully long time but our cells differentiated and "chose" mortality. C. elegans (a very little worm) has had its life artificially expanded to (I think more than ) 3 times its notmal span.

http://www.futurepundit.com/mt/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=1429

When you die your existence becomes telepathic. How do I know? I'm psychic.
 
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