ok idk when but before anything was ever made i mean imagine how something was made mabey trillions of years ago did it just pop up just think in ur head how space was made geez mabey googles of years ago its god u dumb athists and i know u athists mother fuckers are gana say big bang well whree did that material for the bang come from?? think about that

ok idk when but before anything was ever made i mean imagine how something was made mabey trillions of years ago did it just pop up just think in ur head how space was made geez mabey googles of years ago its always existed u dumb thists and i know u thists mother fuckers are gana say god created us, well whree did he come from?? think about that

both of you are dumb. The first guy: they have theories about what was before. the second guy: god is surperior to humans and therefore doesn't need a creator, he is one.....maybe there is a creator who made god, who mae anthor god, who made anthor god who made humans. who knows, go read some theories....

Hmmm, maybe aliens created God? MAYBE the "kingdom of heaven" is an alien city?

Most of the time when you're trying to persuade someone to believe you, it helps to write in such a way that we at least think that you're intelligent. That way, even if you're bullshitting, some of it may seem that it could be completely valid. I believe in God. I don't really care about how everything began, gives me a headache. Oh yeah, and attacking your audience (atheists) causes them to stop listening to you and to grow defensive. Good job asshole.

Antonio-I hate you, you suck at grammar, you suck at supporting your religion, you just generally suck at life.

quote:Originally posted by Rust:

ok idk when but before anything was ever made i mean imagine how something was made mabey trillions of years ago did it just pop up just think in ur head how space was made geez mabey googles of years ago its always existed u dumb thists and i know u thists mother fuckers are gana say god created us, well whree did he come from?? think about that

Rust, say it isn't so!!! Are you devolving?

quote:Originally posted by john_deer:

the second guy: god is surperior to humans and therefore doesn't need a creator, he is one.....maybe there is a creator who made god, who mae anthor god, who made anthor god who made humans. who knows, go read some theories....

I was pointing out how stupid his argument was. Me using his very own post, almost verbatim, save for a few changes, should have clued you in.

In short, I was making fun of his stupidity, and now I'm making fun of yours.

EDIT:

What the hell, I'll entertain your argument:

That's infinite regression. Who made god? Another god? Then who made him? Another one? Then who made that one? ... et cetera, ad infinitum.

That regression never ends, and thus you have no answer to the question of who was here first; unless you do one of two things:

1. You claim that there was an uncaused cause, that is someone who came into the universe, without being created by anyone else. Which makes no logical sense. Or:

2. You claim that something has always existed, and thus not created.

If you claim god has always existed, then I could just as easily state that the universe has always existed. You would be no more correct than I am.



[This message has been edited by Rust (edited 06-10-2005).]

Wait there can't be a cause for everything. You can always continue asking what was the cause of that, and origionally something has to have existed forever, or have come from nothing. This doesn't mean god exists, the universe could have come from nothing, or more likely, the universe could have existed forever in different colapse and regrow states or other possibilities. Or maybe once there was just absolute nothing, and then void was like fuck this, and the universe came to be. How the hell can we, creatures only able to manipulate things in our universe ever begin to understand outside of it's existance??

You really proved your point very poorly. Im not one to correct people on there grammar or spelling because i often make mistakes in internet posts. Man though its a whole new story for you I could barley read what you were trying to say it was horrible to read. Please if your trying to prove a point about something like this try to at least attempt to be proper about it. Jesus. Also you drive people away with the way you wrote it. Its not like anybody is going to debate you when obviously your too nerowminded to even take into consideration other points of views. This was hardly proof of gods exsistence.

[This message has been edited by yango wango (edited 06-10-2005).]

Thanks Rust, i almost pissed my pants laughing.

imo, it would have been even funnier if you hadnt explained yourself... but i'm glad you did, so i dont have to change pants.

BTW, i'm on vacation again next week. I'll try to get that response that i owe you.

and in response to ejail:

read Rust's post. It answers the 'alien' theory.

quote:Originally posted by antonio123:

ok idk when but before anything was ever made i mean imagine how something was made mabey trillions of years ago did it just pop up just think in ur head how space was made geez mabey googles of years ago its god u dumb athists and i know u athists mother fuckers are gana say big bang well whree did that material for the bang come from?? think about that

OH SWEET JESUS! where did you come up with that? Oh you are so intelligent. I have never heard that one before. Joo.....