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My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged.

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Old 2005-06-03, 13:15
crazed_hamster crazed_hamster is offline
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Default When is it OK to break the law?

When is it alright for a 'religious' person to disobey the law? Dammit, I've asked this question before, and since no one's answered I'm posting this. Doesn't matter what religion you are, but when do you feel that you're justified in breaking the law, because of your religion?
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Old 2005-06-03, 14:35
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Religious people best better keep their religious practices inside of their private residence. Otherwise, the law will break them.
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Old 2005-06-03, 17:27
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Religious people are allowed to refuse to follow orders in the military if they go against their morals, but it is highly discouraged and must be announced so that someone else may complete them. It would be said that if following a law is immoral, one is obligated not to follow it.

Snoopy, I completely disagree- if all guns were to be banned, would you give up what weapons you had? Though not purely religious, that is a stupid, unjust, lame law that has complete disregard for ones property or safety.
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Old 2005-06-03, 19:13
crazed_hamster crazed_hamster is offline
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So therefore if I personally believe that, say, paying taxes is immoral, then I wouldn't have to pay?
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Old 2005-06-03, 19:18
AngrySquirrel AngrySquirrel is offline
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quote:Originally posted by crazed_hamster:

So therefore if I personally believe that, say, paying taxes is immoral, then I wouldn't have to pay?

If your religion says so, sure. Just expect to get hit with the gavel.

In Christianity there's the "Give unto Caesar which is Caesar's...." quote though.

Didn't stop the American revolution from rebelling against undue taxation without representation however. But Washington was a Mason.

[This message has been edited by AngrySquirrel (edited 06-03-2005).]
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Old 2005-06-05, 03:23
Cpt.Winters Cpt.Winters is offline
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Break the law whenever you want, just prepare to pay the consequences... or just dont get cought.
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Old 2005-06-05, 03:45
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When you're religion's writings say it's ok.
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Old 2005-06-05, 23:20
asthesunsets asthesunsets is offline
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Well, you can steal bread to feed your family, but not butter. I think you can kill someone, but you have to eat him too, which makes sense because it'd be a waste otherwise.
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Old 2005-06-06, 00:49
xXPhoenixFireXx xXPhoenixFireXx is offline
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It's not only correct to break the law, but actually required of you if you religion says that not breaking the law is immoral. You will still get hit by the legal system if you do break the law, and you must accept the consequences. It's a sacrifice for your religion.
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Old 2005-06-06, 02:03
titan88 titan88 is offline
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Yes. Who defines "the law" though, a bunch of old men? Fuck the law/system.
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Old 2005-06-06, 02:14
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quote:Originally posted by titan88:

Yes. Who defines "the law" though, a bunch of old men? Fuck the law/system.

Hear hear!



A just man defies an unjust law.
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Old 2005-06-06, 03:21
darkmatter89 darkmatter89 is offline
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quote:Originally posted by crazed_hamster:

When is it alright for a 'religious' person to disobey the law? Dammit, I've asked this question before, and since no one's answered I'm posting this. Doesn't matter what religion you are, but when do you feel that you're justified in breaking the law, because of your religion?

"Pay back Caeser's things to Caeser, but God's things to God."

Which means, obey man's laws unless they conflict with God's laws, which trump all.
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Old 2005-06-06, 04:30
spaceMAN spaceMAN is offline
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kill someone and eat them....lmao...wtf religion are you ?!

snoopy, this wouldn't happen to be in soviet russia by any chance ?

crazed hamster if you really believe that paying taxes is immoral then you would stop paying taxes, be arrested, go to court, found guilty because there is no religion that disallows taxes, die.

titan88 and itis, hell yea.
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Old 2005-06-06, 13:13
crazed_hamster crazed_hamster is offline
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quote:Originally posted by spaceMAN:

kill someone and eat them....lmao...wtf religion are you ?!

snoopy, this wouldn't happen to be in soviet russia by any chance ?

crazed hamster if you really believe that paying taxes is immoral then you would stop paying taxes, be arrested, go to court, found guilty because there is no religion that disallows taxes, die.

titan88 and itis, hell yea.

My religion is in my head, and my religion says, "Don't pay your fucking taxes", therefore in order to have freedom of religion, the IRS would have to go scurrying back into their litle holes and leave me alone, no?
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Old 2005-06-06, 13:15
vIsUaLLY aPPealiNG vIsUaLLY aPPealiNG is offline
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convert to a religion that disagrees with every law in existance if you want.

Just be prepared to get arrested

unfortunately politicians have more power than religious leaders over matters like this.
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Old 2005-06-06, 21:42
Jubosh Jubosh is offline
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The things about laws and god is that morals and the holly testiments and that shit was made by god. laws patitions and the shit that restricts us as the being we are are made by man. if you think about whos higher on the chain man or God?
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Old 2005-06-07, 12:30
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quote:Originally posted by spaceMAN:

snoopy, this wouldn't happen to be in soviet russia by any chance ?

Shut up, dickhead.
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Old 2005-06-07, 17:07
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quote:Originally posted by crazed_hamster:

So therefore if I personally believe that, say, paying taxes is immoral, then I wouldn't have to pay?

Emerson and Thoreau didn't pay taxes... look what happened to them. It is morally acceptable, just not legally.
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Old 2005-06-07, 21:32
xbombae xbombae is offline
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quote:Originally posted by Jubosh:

patitions



[This message has been edited by xbombae (edited 06-07-2005).]
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Old 2005-06-08, 21:29
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Religion and law are two different issues. Regardless of one's religion, it can be argued that it is not only the right, but the duty, of a good citizen to disobey any unjust law.
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Old 2005-06-10, 16:08
leumas leumas is offline
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quote:Originally posted by Snoopy:

Religious people best better keep their religious practices inside of their private residence. Otherwise, the law will break them.



Much as I refuse to believe this, I find myself agreeing in principles to what you state.
 
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