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My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged.

 
 
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  #1   Add nomad007 to your ignore list  
Old 2005-04-20, 03:23
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I need all the insight and opinion possible. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChristianAnarchists
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Old 2005-04-20, 23:44
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All the fundies leave and

make their own country?

Greatest idea I ever heard!

How can I help?
  #3   Add Sarter to your ignore list  
Old 2005-04-21, 01:45
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quote:Originally posted by nomad007:

I need all the insight and opinion possible. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChristianAnarchists
http:../../www.christianexodus.com/default.htm

South Carolina eh? Uh oh, looks like they found democracy's Achilles Heel: concentrated voter migration. Theoretically this could work, although the locals will be none too happy. But hey, it's South Carolina we're talking about.

Best not to start from scratch. Research all the theocracies that have come before and current theocratic parties:

http:../../www.absoluteastronomy.com/enc.../theocracy.htm

Since Iran is the only true theocratic country in existance today, you may want to borrow heavily from them. It helps that Islam is Christianity's baby brother.

Oh and don't make the same mistake twice. If you are going to keep the Constitution like Christian Exodus people want (Why? Is it holy now?) rewrite it completely such that there can be no mistaking what it really stands for.
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Old 2005-04-21, 04:04
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The link to Christian Exodus was not posted by me and I don't really know who the people are. Also we would not be breaking away and seceding land. People could stay or go whereever they chose. A micro nation is not required to have land mass to exist. I am wanting to get this set up because many people are mistreated by the powers that be and will continue to be as long as they have ties to the system. This is not about fundamentalism it is about social justice and human dignity. Jesus was a liberator.
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Old 2005-04-21, 04:27
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Islam is Judaeisms baby cousin more likely
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Old 2005-04-21, 05:40
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I'll give you my opinion.

You should not take the bible, jesus, christianity or god literally.

I pity you on so many levels.
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Old 2005-04-21, 22:23
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Daz:

I'll give you my opinion.

You should not take the bible, jesus, christianity or god literally.

I pity you on so many levels.
Same here. As for nomad007, you are a complete moron.
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Old 2005-04-21, 23:57
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Default Re: Please check out this site.

http://www.apostatesofislam.com

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/forum/index.php

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/index.php

http://www.faithfreedom.org

According to these links the Quran has been changed over time.

http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-myths-koran-manuscripts.htm

http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter8/3.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Text/

http://www.jodkowski.pl/re/MBright.html

http://cremesti.com/amalid/Islam/Yemeni_Ancient_Koranic_Texts.htm



http://imrepublican.topcities.com/Islam/islam.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2829059.stm

http://atheism.about.com/cs/islamandviolence/

http://www.twin-towers.net/al-farooq_photos.htm

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/southeast/08/17/martyr.culture/index.html

http://muslim-quotes.netfirms.com/jihad.html

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/amil30611.htm

http://www.domini.org/openbook/home.htm

http://www.persecution.org

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=9583

http://www.danielpipes.org/

http://www.angelfire.com/hi5/kafirdomunity/action.htm

http://www.geocities.com/khola_mon/BTaliban/Bangla_Taliban_Photos.html

http://www.bwoi.cjb.net

http://www.chechentruth.cjb.net/

http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

http://www.arabsforisrael.com/pages/1/index.htm

http://www.rotter.net/israel/

http://www.geocities.com/the_awful_truth_about_islam/index.htm

http://www.geocities.com/khola_mon/Islam.html

http://www.atcoalition.net/

http://www.taliban-online.info/

http://www.geocities.com/milkmandan2003/TalibanOnline1.html
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Old 2005-04-22, 02:41
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quote:Originally posted by nomad007:

The link to Christian Exodus was not posted by me and I don't really know who the people are. Also we would not be breaking away and seceding land. People could stay or go whereever they chose. A micro nation is not required to have land mass to exist. I am wanting to get this set up because many people are mistreated by the powers that be and will continue to be as long as they have ties to the system. This is not about fundamentalism it is about social justice and human dignity. Jesus was a liberator.
The bit about Iran was a joke, I admit, but I'm serious when I say you should research religious parties (in democratic countries) and work within the system. Notice how some states allow gay marriage while some don't? This is because different states have different percentages of gay rights supporters. The only way you can win is with concentrated numbers.

By working with the democratic system, you could remain a state under the USA. That wouldn't be seceding land. At the same time your religious party would be able to make state laws.

The way you describe would be much harder to pull off, and would be very limited in its actions. If you remained spread out thin and yet 'cut ties' with the system you would be seen as criminals and vigilantes and treated accordingly (with jail time).

One of most important rules of getting something done is not reinventing the wheel.
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Old 2005-04-23, 00:18
Shaokhano Shaokhano is offline
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i'm an athesis 4 reasons like these
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Old 2005-04-24, 12:17
Viraljimmy Viraljimmy is offline
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Jeb Bush, thanks for the links!

I never understood why I was

supposed to hate Muslims.

Now I see.
 


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