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My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged.

 
 
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Old 2005-03-23, 03:22
AnAsTaSiO AnAsTaSiO is offline
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Religon in it's purest form is great. The teachings of morality are very helpful in everyday life. However, religon is never truly pure. For example, Christianity teaches to love and to respect others. Yet it shows little respect to those they deem as non-believers. Many Christians feel that if you do not believe in Jesus Christ, you will live a life in enternal damnation. I think that is the stupidiest and most naive thing someone can believe.



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Old 2005-03-23, 05:22
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What do believers actions have to do with what their teachings say? Is it the teachings fault if the followers act in opposition to the teachings?

You fail.
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Old 2005-03-23, 05:32
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quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

Religon in it's purest form is great. The teachings of morality are very helpful in everyday life. However, religon is never truly pure. For example, Christianity teaches to love and to respect others. Yet it shows little respect to those they deem as non-believers. Many Christians feel that if you do not believe in Jesus Christ, you will live a life in enternal damnation. I think that is the stupidiest and most naive thing someone can believe.

I agree with Tribe, but on the otherhand, even though Christianity teaches to love and respect others, it also teaches that the only way to the Father, is through the Son.

So, if Christianity is correct, how do you suppose they should be loving and respectful, but still try to point a non-believer toward the right path?
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Old 2005-03-23, 05:32
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quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

Religon in it's purest form is great. The teachings of morality are very helpful in everyday life. However, religon is never truly pure. For example, Christianity teaches to love and to respect others. Yet it shows little respect to those they deem as non-believers. Many Christians feel that if you do not believe in Jesus Christ, you will live a life in enternal damnation. I think that is the stupidiest and most naive thing someone can believe.

Because of this point I stopped following religion some time ago.

Now I follow Jesus. If you truly know Jesus, not just what he did but also what he is and what he is doing, and follow him you will undestand why we are dammed without him. In my opinion religion doesnt play a part in salvation, it just sometimes helps along the way.
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Old 2005-03-23, 05:41
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quote:Originally posted by AnAsTaSiO:

Religon in it's purest form is great. The teachings of morality are very helpful in everyday life. However, religon is never truly pure. For example, Christianity teaches to love and to respect others. Yet it shows little respect to those they deem as non-believers. Many Christians feel that if you do not believe in Jesus Christ, you will live a life in enternal damnation. I think that is the stupidiest and most naive thing someone can believe.

Christianity does say to dis other religions. Show me that in the bible. And its the crux of our religion to believe in Jesus or be damn, not just a feeling held by most members.
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Old 2005-03-23, 08:31
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Christianity does say to dis other religions. Show me that in the bible. And its the crux of our religion to believe in Jesus or be damn, not just a feeling held by most members.
Jesus said while not accepting other religions as truth, nor letting ourselves be tempted by other religions, we should respect other people's beliefs based on the fact that it is their free will to choose. So reaching out to the unsaved or warning them what awaits them after they die are supposed to be motivated by love for that person, not contept.

The damnation is a little manipulated too. People assume that God created hell as the worst place he could imagine because he wanted the unsaved to suffer, but the fact of the matter is hell is not a creation; it's a result. Hell is the result of a place completely void of God.

God doesn't send people to hell because he doesn't love them for being bad, but because their souls weren't reborn in his son. See the whole object of heaven, the paradise that it is supposed to be, is that there is no sin, nor desire to commit sin. While saved people still sin, God forgives those sins. Salvation can also be described as letting the Holy Spirit enter you. What this does means is that it's somewhat of an extra backing to your conscience, a feeling inside of you that makes you not want to sin (even though we are tempted and still do), so that once we enter heaven (where there is no temptation) we will have no desire within ourselves to sin, and thus be content forever.

A sinner who hasn't asked God for forgiveness cannot enter heaven because they would ruin the perfection. So hell wasn't necessarily created as a punishment for sins, but because if not heaven and everlasting life, the only alternative would be the opposite, everlasting death.

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Old 2005-03-23, 17:55
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quote:Originally posted by aTribeCalledSean:

What do believers actions have to do with what their teachings say? Is it the teachings fault if the followers act in opposition to the teachings?

You fail.


Switch the general definition of 'religion' to 'Islam' and I'll bet that you wouldn't have said that.
 


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