ok so i am going to a mormans house on christmas eve, i know they are going to try convert us...what are some argument i can use to put back on the morman religion to make them stop believing.

i know about methusula and his being around in the bible even though he should have been long dead due to the floods , are there any others

www.youthontherock.com (http://www.youthontherock.com) other beliefs

GOD bless

1 reason. THEYRE FUCKING RELIGION IS BASED ON A SERIES OF DREAMS

Well i can't imagine anything more rude than going to a family's house an uprooting their faith. Then again, if they come asking for it, i guess you're just defending yourself ;-).

First of all, you could talk about Joseph Smith's many false prophecies. Like this one:

quote:. . .I prophesy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed by her officers that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left . . .

(History of the Church, Vol. 5, p. 394.)

Or you could talk about JS's false translation abilities:

http://www.carm.org/lds/ldspapyri.htm

You see, JS called himself a "Seer", meaning that he could translate unreadable languages. He used this ability to translate the Book of Mormon from Golden Plates (which no longer exist). He also retranslated the bible this way. But he also translated some other things. One of which we are now able to translate independently. And guess what: The Translations Don't Match!.

Its all in that link. I suggest you print it out and take it with you.

theBishop

Remember not to insult them too much. That's not nice considering you're spending christmas at their house...

But here's some: http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/bibleandbomcontradictions.htm http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/

Have a pleasant Christmas everybody!

I usually dont like to feed fires but I feel it might be time to bring up an old thorn in the side of moronism so be nice but just ask them there view on this subject

http://www.godandscience.org/cults/dna.html

To make an long article short dna has shown some flaws in there religion

quote:Originally posted by liero:

ok so i am going to a mormans house on christmas eve, i know they are going to try convert us...what are some argument i can use to put back on the morman religion to make them stop believing.

i know about methusula and his being around in the bible even though he should have been long dead due to the floods , are there any others



May ask you what is your faith?

thanks guys. this stuff is great.

btw i dont choose to have a religion based on an organisation. i dont hate the mormans i just believe that they do the wrong thing in trying to convert ppl

[This message has been edited by liero (edited 12-24-2004).]

Your arguments will no doubt fall on deaf ears, liero, since when is religion ever about accurate facts? They've already chosen the Mormon faith as their "One True Faith", and nothing, even direct evidence that they are wrong, will change their minds. They've got to realize the flaws themselves.

mormanism is based on white supremacy . And utah sucks .

quote:Originally posted by eprime:

mormanism is based on white supremacy . And utah sucks .

Used to be. They now allow blacks in the priesthood.

... and Utah still sucks ;-).

quote:Originally posted by theBishop:

Well i can't imagine anything more rude than going to a family's house an uprooting their faith. Then again, if they come asking for it, i guess you're just defending yourself ;-).

First of all, you could talk about Joseph Smith's many false prophecies. Like this one:

Or you could talk about JS's false translation abilities:

http://www.carm.org/lds/ldspapyri.htm

You see, JS called himself a "Seer", meaning that he could translate unreadable languages. He used this ability to translate the Book of Mormon from Golden Plates (which no longer exist). He also retranslated the bible this way. But he also translated some other things. One of which we are now able to translate independently. And guess what: The Translations Don't Match!.

Its all in that link. I suggest you print it out and take it with you.

theBishop



So, that explains our goverment...

Well Im writing a 12 page paper on them right now.

I dont feel like getting any of my research out right now even though Im not dissproving them. But Joseph Smith fits the scriptures of the false prophet, he is the wolf in sheeps clothing. The Scriptures say that the false prophet will be killed early, as he was. Another was if his prophecys didnt come true. The are countless from Joseph Smith, the man who said Zion was to be built in Missouri.

The Mormons are a truly American religion and are very interesting. I think the episode of South Park summed them up nicely.

quote:Originally posted by Dr.Meth:

1 reason. THEYRE FUCKING RELIGION IS BASED ON A SERIES OF DREAMS

... and all other religions are based on facts?

Dreams seem to be a good enough basis for a religion than anything else.

That's what makes the whole science of them so interesting. All it takes is faith and fuck all that logic bullshit.

Logic is for pussies.

Cheers,

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