hypotheticly

God = Omnipotent

Omnipotent = All knowing/All powerful

the universe contains all the probabilities and energy in existance (multi-verses* included)

*Assuming multi-verse is real.

Universe = Omnipotent = God.

Point being. You're God and so is your keyboard, and so on, and so on...

Any thoughts?

pantheism?

Hmmm...pantheism... seems a little limiting.

Well, I guess partialy... Interesting...

I'm just casting lines to see what I catch.

Social fishing. Thanks.

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God was made up by people who have know way of explaning things, or some people use magic, ghosts ect

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Universe = Omnipotent = God.

Well... yeah. If you wanna use the 'God' word for creation. All creation is just part of the thought of the thing (God, the universe, whatever). So you and your keyboard are just part of it's thought, and it's thought is all it is, so you are part of God, and yes, in a sense you are God. Because your reality is whatever you percieve it to be, but existance is a paradox as far as I see and you can always accept the completely contradicting view at the same time (well... I can). Somedays I feel like I'm God, on others, I'm another piece of white trash with no power and completely subjective to the will of the universe, God, etc, but most of the time I feel like I'm both.

Quote:black territory

God was made up by people who have know way of explaning things, or some people use magic, ghosts ect

That may be a valid opinion.

But under the assumtion that

1. God IS the Universe.

2. Then WE created the universe.

That is also interesting.

Sorta like the universe doesn't exist until a self inflected consiousness is aware of it's existance

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quote:Originally posted by 000000:

Quote:black territory

God was made up by people who have know way of explaning things, or some people use magic, ghosts ect

That may be a valid opinion.

But under the assumtion that

1. God IS the Universe.

2. Then WE created the universe.

That is also interesting.

Sorta like the universe doesn't exist until a self inflected consiousness is aware of it's existance

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As far as it matters to the mind, if the mind is unaware of something, it doesn't exist. The problem is, just because we are unaware of the objective reality doesn't mean it isn't there...we just have no fucking clue what it is because we interpret the objective in a subjective manner.

quote:Originally posted by Black Territory:

God was made up by people who have know way of explaning things, or some people use magic, ghosts ect

Says the kid who can't prove it either way.

well if we want to get to that level we carnt prove anything, so what if you are doing soimething, it may just be a matrix tipe of thing.

Omnipotence is a quality that doesn't necessarily encompass everything physical. You're using pretty basic logic here, so first I would say is you need to expand your proof. Three steps isn't nearly enough to begin even trying to show that god has a physical form.

It's really presumptious to claim that omnipotence is the universe.

Basically, I'd like to see your logic expanded upon before I give my opinion.