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| My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |
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#1
 2004-11-27, 22:31
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GlitterPunk112358 
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"The Intellectual Laziness of Atheists"
Where is this article? Anyone? I can't find it
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#2
 2004-11-27, 22:48
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MasterPython 
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Re: "The Intellectual Laziness of Atheists"
Atheists are intellectually lazy
By William Jeffreys
Sep 17, 2004, 08:50
That one?
there is a small exept here http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_1181.shtml
Found it with dogpile after google and metacrawler turned up nothing. Not many things are that well hidden.
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#3
 2004-11-27, 22:59
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Re: "The Intellectual Laziness of Atheists"
http://www.totse.com/en/ego/self_improvement/intellectualla173040.html
If you click on the period in what I thought was an exexpt you get that link. Not sure why those engines did not find it find it. They found a rebutle.
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#4
 2004-11-29, 00:33
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Re: "The Intellectual Laziness of Atheists"
"...This self-determination of consciousness must not be conceived as a genesis, as a becoming, for that would force us to suppose that consciousness is prior to its own existence. Neither is it necessary to conceive of this self-creation as an act, for in that case consciousness would be conscious (of) itself as an act, which it is not. Consciousness is a plenum of existence, and this determination of itself by itself is an essential characteristic. It would even be wise not to misuse the expression 'cause of self,' which allows us to suppose a progression, a relation of self-cause to self-effect. It would be more exact to say very simply: The existence of consciousness comes from consciousness itself. by that we need not understand that consciousness 'derives from nothingness.' There can not be 'nothingness of consciousness' before consciousness. 'Before' consciousness one can conceive only of a plenum of being of which no element can refer to an absent consciousness. If there is to be nothingness of consciousness, there must be a consciousness which has been and which is no more and a witnessing consciousness which poses the nothingness of the first consciousness for a synthesis of recognition. Consciousness is prior to nothingness and 'is derived' from being."
-Sartre
Intellectually lazy my ass.
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#5
 2004-11-30, 22:51
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Ezratal 
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Re: "The Intellectual Laziness of Atheists"
The viewpoint that they're intellectually lazy is a generalization that is more true aimed at themselves (creationists). It is much easier to believe something blindly that you've been told your entire life than to question it. Also, probably 80% of the "Christians" I meet know very little of their own religion and nothing of others. I live in a redneck bible-beating community though so those statistics may hold no ground.
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