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| My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |
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#1
 2004-10-05, 03:18
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Broken Angel 
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Why do Catholics Say Father?
just wondering:
Catholics believe in the father, son and holy spirit right? So if you call a priest, father or padre, isn't that sacreligious sort of? Like when you confess your saying that they are the father, or is it totally just a play on words, and taken at face value?
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#2
 2004-10-05, 04:10
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Re: Why do Catholics Say Father?
Supposedly God is channeled through the priests, so when you say Father to a priest, you are addressing God, not the human he is channeled through. And then in return, when the priest talks to you in reply, it is supposedly God's channeled words.
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#3
 2004-10-05, 04:49
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The Cahulawassee River
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Re: Why do Catholics Say Father?
^^^
Correct.
Here's an article straight from the Eternal Word TV website expanding on that topic. (http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/father_for_priests.htm)
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#4
 2004-10-05, 05:58
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Broken Angel 
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Re: Why do Catholics Say Father?
That is 100% cool.  Thank you for answering my question.
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#5
 2004-10-05, 11:50
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Re: Why do Catholics Say Father?
quote:Originally posted by Broken Angel:
just wondering:
Catholics believe in the father, son and holy spirit right? So if you call a priest, father or padre, isn't that sacreligious sort of? Like when you confess your saying that they are the father, or is it totally just a play on words, and taken at face value?
Apparently the Roman pagan church priests were also called father and the title was simply transferred as were the holidays like easter and xmas.
How is it the catholics use this term when their new testament says to call no man father?
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#6
 2004-10-05, 19:04
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Re: Why do Catholics Say Father?
quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:
Supposedly God is channeled through the priests, so when you say Father to a priest, you are addressing God, not the human he is channeled through. And then in return, when the priest talks to you in reply, it is supposedly God's channeled words.
This bit of dogma was added to the religion to clear that up.
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#7
 2004-10-05, 22:10
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Re: Why do Catholics Say Father?
quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:
This bit of dogma was added to the religion to clear that up.
Sounds like doublespeak  , on the one hand the supposedly infallible book says to call no man father(which the priest undoubtedly is - no women priests  ), and the infallible word of the church contradicts that. Smoke and mirrors, or an insidious deception?
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#8
 2004-10-06, 02:33
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Re: Why do Catholics Say Father?
quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:
Supposedly God is channeled through the priests, so when you say Father to a priest, you are addressing God, not the human he is channeled through. And then in return, when the priest talks to you in reply, it is supposedly God's channeled words.
Zed, read this, and absorb it. They are not calling the priest Father.
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#9
 2004-10-07, 02:15
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Blades of Hate 
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Re: Why do Catholics Say Father?
so when the priests fuck the kid they can say
"WHOS YOUR DADDY!"
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#10
 2004-10-07, 03:18
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Re: Why do Catholics Say Father?
catholics just throw out stuff that goes against their mafia like teachings...
like in the bible it says call no man father but they try and redeem themselves by saying God is in the priests.. hes not
and by throwing out the commandment of idols
no idol shall be made to anything on earth, the sea, or in heaven.. so the statues of mary, jesus, and all saints are actualy idols and is considered a breaking of the commandment.. but instead they throw that commandment out and add another covet commandment
also.. purgatory
purgatory was invented by a priest to raise money to build a cathedral and the teaching stuck
conclusion: Catholics make up their own teachings , not from the bible at all
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#11
 2004-10-07, 09:40
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person 
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Re: Why do Catholics Say Father?
quote:Originally posted by Blades of Hate:
so when the priests fuck the kid they can say
"WHOS YOUR DADDY!"
that is un-needed, most priests dont even do that, its just a few that are dickheads
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#12
 2004-10-07, 10:13
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Re: Why do Catholics Say Father?
quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:
Zed, read this, and absorb it. They are not calling the priest Father.
Is that why catholic parishioners always call the priest Father?
Doublespeak: say one thing, do another!
Namaste 
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#13
 2004-10-07, 17:14
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ShotgunSuicide 
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Re: Why do Catholics Say Father?
quote:Originally posted by redzed:
Sounds like doublespeak  , on the one hand the supposedly infallible book says to call no man father(which the priest undoubtedly is - no women priests  ), and the infallible word of the church contradicts that. Smoke and mirrors, or an insidious deception?
Where???
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#14
 2004-10-07, 19:53
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dr funk 
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Re: Why do Catholics Say Father?
quote:Originally posted by gangstafied:
[B]and by throwing out the commandment of idols
no idol shall be made to anything on earth, the sea, or in heaven.. so the statues of mary, jesus, and all saints are actualy idols and is considered a breaking of the commandment..
ive attened catholic schools all of my life and the chuches teaching on the whole idol thing is not about building statues its about worshiping it. the church says that we are supposed to respect the statues of jesus and what not and to "venerate"(respect) them becasue they symbolize the saints on earth
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#15
 2004-10-08, 00:13
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gangstafied 
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Re: Why do Catholics Say Father?
[/QUOTE]
ive attened catholic schools all of my life and the chuches teaching on the whole idol thing is not about building statues its about worshiping it. the church says that we are supposed to respect the statues of jesus and what not and to "venerate"(respect) them becasue they symbolize the saints on earth
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Catholics bow to these statues sometimes when they pray, thats idoltry
Also the bread is supposedly the true body of Jesus and they worship this bread...
that too is idoltry I go to a catholic school presently and expirience all of this every day
its idoltry, face it
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