i'm going to dl this movie so i can laugh at jesus. so what the fuck? i saw a picture of "lucifer" from the passion movie and what the fuck? is it a girl or what the fuck?

why would you laugh at Jesus?

he got pwned!

no, He didn't. He rose. Lucifer got pwned.

I think Lucifer in the movie was sort of asexual

yeah thats what my friend told me whats up with that?

lucifer will be doing the pwning soon enough

[This message has been edited by neX (edited 08-22-2004).]

i doubt it

you're all stupid. the zetas are the only ones doing any pwning next.

Jesus owned idiot.

That whole rising from the dead into eternal life bit, that was mad ownage.

I wonder if he even ever died. Accounts of his execution said that he "died" MUCH MUCH faster than is normally expected. Either way, satan is coming to do major pwnage!

He died more quickly because he was bearing the sins of the world.

"Father take this cup from me."

"If there is another way..."

He was also severely beaten beforehand, and had already lost plenty of blood before he was actually nailed to the cross.

He was stabbed in the heart...when both blood and water run from a heart, it means that death has occured. (the two do not separate until then) Read the gospels (new testament) if you would like to know the account of what happened.

He was also placed in a tomb, behind an enormous boulder for three days. I don't think anyone could survive that, especially after being crucified.

By the way, the Romans are well known for their perfection of the art of killing. No one would "live" through a crucifixion. They wouldn't have allowed him to be removed from the cross until he was dead. The soldiers present would have lost their own lives if Jesus had been found alive. They wouldn't have risked that. Not to mention they enjoyed killing.

it's a miracle He lived through the beating

True. But he couldn't die. His work was not yet finished.

When I saw 'The Passion,' to me it looked like there was a Lucifer, and a being holding a baby, which I immediately thought of as Lilith.

quote:Originally posted by neX:

is it a girl or what the fuck?

My friend read something on the passion and he said that Mel gibson wanted lucifer not to look like a guy nor girl. Use Google and look it up if u want to find out more cuz thats all i remember and i dont feel like looking it up.

Yeah well this whole ressurection bs just proves that the Romans fucked up somewhere. At least they got it right with St.Peter, upside down is the way to do it.

Yea, Who said the ass even died. Or that he did "trueley" rise agian??? And who says he died quickly because he was weak? eh? eh?

the bible isn't any more believable than star wars

And this coming from people who haven't read it.

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

And this coming from people who haven't read it.



GWNED!

romans rule!!! first they kill jesus

then they build a wooden horse and kill more people romans pwn!!!

haillllllllllllllllllucifer

Do you realize how uneducated you make yourself sound ?

I am sure the rest of the satanists are proud to call you one of their own.



It was the GREEKS that used the Trojan Horse bit...

- http://www.stanford.edu/~plomio/history.html

quote:Originally posted by aTribeCalledSean:

GWNED!

Ok, there is no way to not look ignorant here, so I will be humble and ask: what does GWNED and PWNED mean ?

I guess I wasn't here for that inside joke.

PWNED = OWNED

The "P" key is next to the "O" key. Someone decided it was cool to not hit the right keys.

GWNED = GOD OWNED

Someone on this forum decided it was cool.

Oh, I see.

I don't feel so bad for not using it, then. *laughs*

Thanks, MP !!

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

And this coming from people who haven't read it.



i'm more familiar with the bible than most christians i've discussed it with.

I believe I was speaking to ilbastardoh.

What's your point ?

quote:Originally posted by MasterPython:

PWNED = OWNED

The "P" key is next to the "O" key. Someone decided it was cool to not hit the right keys.

GWNED = GOD OWNED

Someone on this forum decided it was cool.

no... pwned was derived from counter-strike to mean pistol owned,.. "Another explanation states that "pwned" arose from "Pistol Owned" or "Pistol Ownage" in the popular online game "Half-Life Counter-Strike", when a player was beaten by a lightly armed foe, and for the sake of brevity, was shortened to simply pwned." from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet check it out for yourself.

My Steam name is Dumbass, for CS.

quote:Originally posted by neX:

i'm going to dl this movie so i can laugh at jesus. so what the fuck? i saw a picture of "lucifer" from the passion movie and what the fuck? is it a girl or what the fuck?



Doubtful.. male's chin and nose.

quote:Originally posted by Zman:

it's a miracle He lived through the beating

I wholeheartedly agree.... but....

the human body can withstand a lot more than we normally coinsider.

Senator Jeramiah Denton wrote a book "When Hell was in Session". It was about his 'stint' as a POW in Vietnam, and the torture the prisoners endured.

I'm by no means trying to downplay the suffering that Jesus The Christ withstood. Just babbling.

I just watched "The Passion" tonight. The thing that struck me is if someone watching it is unfamiliar with atleast the basics of the Bible, they probably would be quite confused.

Also, IMO, it should have been done in various modern languages. It is nice that it was done in the original (minus latin), but how many people in the US (or the world, for that matter) speak Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin, and Greek.

If i'm not mistaken, the first language that the Bible was translated to, was Latin. Nowdays, not too many people reading latin other than clergy, doctors, lawyers, & scientists...and i doubt if most of them read the Bible in the Latin (or even in the original languages).

I have heard that alot of people who have watched the movie, cried. I did feel sad that my sins were among those that Jesus died for. But at the same time, I felt joy, because God loves me (us) enough to pay my (our) penalty.

someone should really teach Gibson how to direct film. No offense to uh, christ or christians, but mel is a terrible film maker. for example (out of many), what was the point of his excessive use of slow motion? there's a lot of very juvenile items like that, proving how poor, especially in regards to aesthetics, Mel Gibson is [as a film-maker].

Oh, and on a side note, the CGI dove that Jesus looks up to in the sky is hillariously awful.

[This message has been edited by jer (edited 09-02-2004).]

This just proves that you completely missed the point of the film...

Also, Mel funded the entire film. I suppose that would equate to lower quality graphics, though I certainly wasn't paying attention to that !

What about the message, Jer ? Did you bother to pay attention to that ?

You know, I always pictured Mary Magdalene as a redhead, but in Passion she's Monica Belucci. I was a little disappointed.

disappointed? Monica Belucci's hot IMO

quote:Originally posted by prozak_jack:

You know, I always pictured Mary Magdalene as a redhead, but in Passion she's Monica Belucci. I was a little disappointed.

A red head ? She was Hebrew !! *LOL*

By the way, I just watched the Passion again, and I think that the reason Lucifer is shown as effeminate is to portray his ability to seduce. His ultimate seductiveness and allure is the reason he is so ultimately effective in clouding people's judgement.

lol... i tell you what, if sin was as seductive as Satan is portrayed in the Passion.. there wouldn't be much seduction going on.

quote:Originally posted by MasterPython:

PWNED = OWNED

The "P" key is next to the "O" key. Someone decided it was cool to not hit the right keys.

GWNED = GOD OWNED

Someone on this forum decided it was cool.

AHHHH AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

THAT WAS ME!

I didn't think anyone was paying attention when I invented that. Cool shit, I thought it was my little secret.

quote:Originally posted by inquisitor_11:

lol... i tell you what, if sin was as seductive as Satan is portrayed in the Passion.. there wouldn't be much seduction going on.

I didn't say he was SEXY ! *lol*

SEDUCE - To lead away from duty, accepted principles, or proper conduct. To entice or beguile into a desired state or position. To win over; attract. Specifically, to induce to surrender chastity; to debauch by means of solicitation.



[This message has been edited by Digital_Savior (edited 09-04-2004).]

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

This just proves that you completely missed the point of the film...

Also, Mel funded the entire film. I suppose that would equate to lower quality graphics, though I certainly wasn't paying attention to that !

What about the message, Jer ? Did you bother to pay attention to that ?

The message of the film has nothing to do with the directing of the film. A story can ROCK, but the filming of it can still suck.

And did I pay attention to the story? You mean the same story I've heard a million times over and over? Jesus died for our sins? Yeah, I've heard that story before. It's a nice thought.

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

Do you realize how uneducated you make yourself sound ?

I am sure the rest of the satanists are proud to call you one of their own.



It was the GREEKS that used the Trojan Horse bit...

- http://www.stanford.edu/~plomio/history.html

i could care less

this movie sucks like even if i wasn't a satanist, the plot is horrible and the movie is half of jesus getting his ass raped and i've seen sicker shit. they only made this movie so people can feel sorry and try to convert some idiots who say the movie changed their lives and made them a better christian hahaha eat my asshole

quote:Originally posted by jer:

The message of the film has nothing to do with the directing of the film. A story can ROCK, but the filming of it can still suck.

And did I pay attention to the story? You mean the same story I've heard a million times over and over? Jesus died for our sins? Yeah, I've heard that story before. It's a nice thought.

I didn't say you missed the story, I said you missed the POINT of the movie.

The point was to more precisely and vividly convey the torture that Jesus endured, for us (whether he did it as the son of God for the atonement of our sins, or as a completely deranged individual is irrelevant).

Many people read the accounts of the crucifixion, and don't TRULY understand what it entailed.

Not to mention how severely beaten he was prior to the crucifixion. It was written that he was not even recognizable.

But I guess in this society of overly violent films, desensitization has nullified Mel's attempts at tugging on the heart strings of the viewers.

One thing, though...this reenactment of the crucifixion is majorly flawed in one significant way.

The nails were not driven into the hands...the delicate bones could not have possibly withstood the entire weight of a man's body, under such conditions. The nail would have been ripped right through the flesh.

The nail was strategically placed at the pinnacle of the ulna and the radius, just before the wrist. This ensured that the victim would "stay" pinned to the cross, thus prolonging the torture.

As I have said before, Romans prided themselves on their murdering/torturing talents.

This tidbit of info had nothing to do with what we are talking about; just a side note.

quote:Originally posted by neX:

i could care less

this movie sucks like even if i wasn't a satanist, the plot is horrible and the movie is half of jesus getting his ass raped and i've seen sicker shit. they only made this movie so people can feel sorry and try to convert some idiots who say the movie changed their lives and made them a better christian hahaha eat my asshole

You rented it, so you could laugh at it. Obviously, your actual opinion of the movie doesn't matter, because you didn't want to understand the context of it to begin with.

You're pretty immature, ya know that ?

Unfortunatley there are alot of stupid and immature idiots in the Satanic community, ironic considering that stupidy is one of the greatest Satanic 'sins' as well as ignorance but both of this are broken by many so-called Satanists. I'd imagine the majority of these people would be teenagers who skipped sunday school to smoke and thought that the noah's ark story was 'sutp1d' and that church was boring and so they found a Satanic website and allowed themselves to be brainwashed without reading into or researching anything for thesmelves which is I'm sure what they condemn christians for not doing, and what the Satanic website they were brainwashed by urged people to do (and they'd probably spout it off as well). A good deal of these people say 'LOL!!1!1' alot, 'HAAAAAILLL SSAAAATTANNN!!111 GUDD DAMNITT!!11' at completely random times and, as aleady displayed still say things like 'god damned', what is incredible is the irony when they use it to try and condemn christians/christianity/christian institution or the bible or something. They are shit spellers who mispell on purpose and type in 'l337' and are the shame of the Satanic community as they are truly of the sheep or herd mentality where as Satanists are the goats and are stupid and ignorant which breaks two of the Satanic 'sins'. You can obviously see why many Satanic groups are elitist, to weed out dick knobs like this.

Hail Satan.

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

By the way, I just watched the Passion again, and I think that the reason Lucifer is shown as effeminate is to portray his ability to seduce. His ultimate seductiveness and allure is the reason he is so ultimately effective in clouding people's judgement.



That depends, of course, on your perspective. To some, Satan plays the same role as Prometheus, stealing the forbidden fire from heaven to benefit Mankind. The Satan Archetype is fairly inspiring to those who oppose the principles of slavery and tyranny, and for those who love knowledge, Satan plays a patron role. Yet the Bible constantly warns against knowledge and is continuously reminding people to submit.

quote:Originally posted by neX:

yeah thats what my friend told me whats up with that?

lucifer will be doing the pwning soon enough



we so have the kingdom of heaven outnumbered

quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:

You rented it, so you could laugh at it. Obviously, your actual opinion of the movie doesn't matter, because you didn't want to understand the context of it to begin with.

You're pretty immature, ya know that ?

i downloaded it i wouldn't waste my money

yes i am immature

The actress that plays satan is a female.

i aint seen passion yet but ppl pass out in movie theatres and have seizures in them every day and no 1 cares but 1 lady had a seizure while watching it and it was all over the news for a couple days WTF!?

all this christianity is... i cant find that word

The actor that played Yeshua was hit by lightning when he was on the cross. Another trail of lightning hit a producer. I wonder what Gods trying to tell you now Mel? Google it if u dont believe. And a women had a fatal heart attack or seizure watching it.

god wouldn't strike his own people

its the work of satan and or beelzebub