The death penalty

The killing of an individual is a horrendous act. Therefore, to kill someone for killing someone is double the immorality.

Furthermore, when that killing does not achieve anything positive (like learning how to prevent murders happening again, or showing the perpetrator the error of his ways), it is pointless and ceases to be punishment - moving into the category of revenge, which is again, an immoral and unjustified motive.

Even further, unless the perpetrator is a true psychopath, or sociopath, or the crime is accidental, no murder is performed without an extreme emotional motivation, and thus a lack of reason. The first two exceptions obviously require treatment, while the third is obviously not to blame (and probably suffering enough guilt to be self-punished), but to rationally decide to kill the emotional murderer is to perform a worse crime than the original perpetrator, who at the instance of the crime had lost access to their rationality.

Therefore, one can conclude that the death sentence, is not just an illogical punishment, but an immoral one.

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The above argument was written by a friend of mine, I don't agree on every aspect, but its interesting nonetheless.

[This message has been edited by dearestnight_falcon (edited 08-14-2004).]

The death penalty should only happen if a family member of the victim gets to do the deed.

If your wife is raped, you have every right and are justified in killing the man who raped her.

If your father is murdered, you have every right and are justified in killing the person who murdered him.

I would be quite the hypocrite if I were such an adamant supporter of abortion but not capital punishment, and since I am not a hypocrite, I shall not deviate.

quote:Originally posted by The_Rabbi:

The death penalty should only happen if a family member of the victim gets to do the deed.

If your wife is raped, you have every right and are justified in killing the man who raped her.

If your father is murdered, you have every right and are justified in killing the person who murdered him.

I would be quite the hypocrite if I were such an adamant supporter of abortion but not capital punishment, and since I am not a hypocrite, I shall not deviate.

You follow Astaru right?

I think I saw you say that once, and that certainly backs it up.

Yes, I do.

I've come to gain an understanding of theology that, while holding asatru to be the truth, is also far more accurate to reality than any that has come before.

I really ought to right it down, it's damn close to a Unified Field Theory.

quote:Originally posted by The_Rabbi:

Yes, I do.

I've come to gain an understanding of theology that, while holding asatru to be the truth, is also far more accurate to reality than any that has come before.

I really ought to right it down, it's damn close to a Unified Field Theory.

Mad. The religious version of a unified field theory?

hehe. do you have MSN?

if so, my addy is dawnfalcon at homail<nospam>.com

It's less of a religious version of the UFT, than the true UFT itself, the theory blending together science and theology in a conceivable and possible form.

I'll give you a hint: it's all got to do with energy, because EVERYTHING'S got to do with energy.

I can't seem to figure out time, though. I know that it ceases to exist after the physical is over, and may not be a real thing but merely a side-effect, but I haven't gained a complete grasp of the concept.

quote:Originally posted by shedding mountain:

i know what you mean

time is a linear concept i'm not very fond of

It's hard as fuck to get your ideas down straight when it comes to breaking our pre-concieved notions of time and space.

quote:Originally posted by The_Rabbi:

The death penalty should only happen if a family member of the victim gets to do the deed.

If your wife is raped, you have every right and are justified in killing the man who raped her.

If your father is murdered, you have every right and are justified in killing the person who murdered him.

i will be the next to agree.

[ArmsMerchant]

I think it is worth noting that the Untied States of Amerika is the ONLY western nation which still has the death penalty.

It is just plain wrong, for too many reasons to mention.

the death penalty is wrong but there needs to be a better punishment than jail time how about we give them a choice of death or to be taken out of thier jail cell everyday for a beating for the rest of thier life