totse.com | any christians here support bush?

fakeithardx · #1 2004-03-22, 19:52

i know this should be in politics, but its been asked there before many times. The people who read this forum seem much more religiously orientated.

how can you christians follow bush if one of the ten commandments is

thou shalt not kill

???

inquisitor_11 · #2 2004-03-23, 00:42

Its been said before, but the commandment is more lit. "you shall not murder"/ kill unjustly" .

I'm actually Australian, so he's not my head of state- i actually despise much of his governments policys an their attitude. a)because alot of it's generally wrong b)he promotes himself as a commited christian (can't be pres. if youre not) and yet what does his stand for and do? certainly not mercy, justice and integrity.

Craftian · #3 2004-03-23, 05:20

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quote:Originally posted by fakeithardx:

how can you christians follow bush if one of the ten commandments is

thou shalt not kill

Because the majority of Christians are fundamentally hypocritical.

(though as far as I know inquisitor_11 is correct about the "Thou shalt not commit murder" thing)

dearestnight_falcon · #4 2004-03-23, 05:59

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[b] Because the majority of Christians are fundamentally hypocritical.

B]

yeah... It used to be "uncool" in christinity to be rich, but a fair few American christians have managed to put that out of their minds.

DoPesTeR-DaZe · #5 2004-03-23, 06:14

A lot of Christians I've spoken to actually do support Bush and his war, which seems to me to be the complete antithesis of Christian ethics. Also, I don't think it is "You shall not commit murder." In what circumstance should it be viable for a Christian (or anyone for that matter) to take another life?

theBishop · #6 2004-03-23, 18:16

Yeah, I don't think Bush actually represents Christianity, or leads the country in a Christlike way. He merely represents the religious right, which is a disgrace to christianity for the most part. When Jesus came and he was giving the Pharisees a hard time, if Jesus came today the "religious right" would be the exact same way.

Craftian · #7 2004-03-23, 18:22

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In what circumstance should it be viable for a Christian (or anyone for that matter) to take another life?

I think a person is justified in killing somebody else to stop them from committing murder. (assuming you are certain that is their intent)

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DoPesTeR-DaZe · #8 2004-03-23, 23:27

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I think a person is justified in killing somebody else to stop them from committing murder. (assuming you are certain that is their intent)

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I disagree, on what basis can you value the life youre saving over the life youre taking?

FreakerSoup · #9 2004-03-24, 01:20

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I disagree, on what basis can you value the life youre saving over the life youre taking?

I'm with ya, man. Christ himself, the basis of Christian religion, was killed, and he made no struggle, no attempt to take someone else's life, and even told Peter to knock it off. Those who live by the sword die by the sword and all that. That's how the story goes anyways.

exesept · #10 2004-03-24, 02:37

bush is an asshole, a self-serving asshole. Yes. lets equivelate bloodshed with EVEN MORE BLOODSHED! Fuckin genius. Bush is a retard. Some Christian huh? There is this saying in the bible, "If soemone slaps you across your right cheek, do not strike back, but instead turn your cheek to the left and allow them to smack your other side"

I'm not saying let yourself get pushed around all the time. But violence is NEVER the answer, Bush could've done other things. The stupid Taliban radicals and their brainwashing. Its horrible. *sigh*