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| My God Can Beat the Shit Out of Your God For discussing any and all religious viewpoints. Intolerance will not be tolerated. Keeping your sense of humor is required. Posting messages about theological paradoxes is encouraged. |
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# 1
2003-09-08, 14:14
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Under the sea, under the sea...
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...why do bad things happen?
Heheheheheheheeheheheehehheeheheheheh...
Sorry...
Heh.
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# 2
2003-09-08, 16:54
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You be reading Bible.
It say:
"Shit be happening".
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# 3
2003-09-08, 18:10
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The only 'Bad' thing to exist is suffering. If suffering didn't exist then nothing would be bad.
We are given plenty of spiritual advice from various sources to end suffering.
And here's you suggesting that you don't believe in god because of suffering. That's funny.
Suffering only exists where there is ignorance. Find god and it will end and nothing in your mind will be 'Bad'.
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# 4
2003-09-08, 18:45
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by ---Beany---:
The only 'Bad' thing to exist is suffering. If suffering didn't exist then nothing would be bad.
We are given plenty of spiritual advice from various sources to end suffering.
And here's you suggesting that you don't believe in god because of suffering. That's funny.
Suffering only exists where there is ignorance. Find god and it will end and nothing in your mind will be 'Bad'.
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personally i dont think there is a god, i used to believe and i still suffered, alot, alot more than i do now, now that i have no false hopes of what will happen after death, and how god should help me and make the world a better place, its all bullshit, and im happy knowing that, even if there was a god, i wouldnt want to believe ina god that send ppl to hell, the worst place you can be,for not having faith in him. thats a pretty harsh god and i dont think somehting like that deserves havi ng faith in.
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# 5
2003-09-08, 21:10
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Please, don't just decide to give up on god.
One of the most important messages to come from the Bible is "Seek and yee shall find".
Maybe you don't believe in God because you don't realy understand him. You should strive to understand what God is all about. Believe me, since I started really searching for God it's unbelievable the things I've discovered.
Simply believing in God isn't the answer to the problem of "suffering".
To end suffering you need to "Find" God. You need to understand what God is and who you are in relation. It's inevitable that you'll find him eventually, but if you really wanna be happy then I'd start searching now. Have faith that there is something there to discover.
Question every damn thing until you get answers that you accept.
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# 6
2003-09-08, 21:21
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quote:Originally posted by ---Beany---:
Please, don't just decide to give up on god.
One of the most important messages to come from the Bible is "Seek and yee shall find".
Maybe you don't believe in God because you don't realy understand him. You should strive to understand what God is all about. Believe me, since I started really searching for God it's unbelievable the things I've discovered.
Simply believing in God isn't the answer to the problem of "suffering".
To end suffering you need to "Find" God. You need to understand what God is and who you are in relation. It's inevitable that you'll find him eventually, but if you really wanna be happy then I'd start searching now. Have faith that there is something there to discover.
Question every damn thing until you get answers that you accept.
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no, i think ill go my own way, iv givin it a chance and not got anything out of it so...
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# 7
2003-09-08, 21:30
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Tea and Crumpets country
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by irwins69:
no, i think ill go my own way
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God wouldn't have it any other way. You are free to take which ever path you choose. It's just some paths are shorter than others. They all end up back at the source (God).
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# 8
2003-09-08, 21:58
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Well, hell.
If all paths lead to the same destination, then why not take the path of least resistance?
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# 9
2003-09-08, 22:07
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quote:Originally posted by Dark_Magneto:
Well, hell.
If all paths lead to the same destination, then why not take the path of least resistance?
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Good question.
Some of us like a challenge, I guess.
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# 10
2003-09-08, 22:49
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Under the sea, under the sea...
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Yes, but...
Why does God let people starve...
Why does He let so much bloodshed be carried out in his name...
Why am I expiriencing male pattern baldness at 21...
Why, God, why?
Have mercy...
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#11
2003-09-08, 22:52 |
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 Re: So, if God is real...
Because he feels like it.
If there was never any bad, how would you know if something was good?
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#12
2003-09-08, 23:08 |
Wings Of Azrael 
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Re: So, if God is real...
Thumbs up to Kikey. Suffering, punishment, rewards, exaltation are all parts of God's divine plan of which we have no knowledge. It is also a way to test loyalties to Him.
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#13
2003-09-09, 00:31 |
Hammer&Sickle
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Re: So, if God is real...
It does not concern god whether we starve or let bloodshed happen. That all revolves around the idea of free will and god cannot interfere with that.
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#14
2003-09-09, 01:32 |
L3d3ni
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Re: So, if God is real...
People, lighten up. I'm kidding. The male pattern baldness does bother me, though.
I wrote balldness. Silly me.
[This message has been edited by L3d3ni (edited 09-09-2003).]
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#15
2003-09-09, 02:33 |
jdoapc
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Re: So, if God is real...
When we're in Pain we often ask why? WHHHHYYYY? Still I've never seen anybody in the belly of plessure ask why?
Perhaps somethimes some people do.
Why does God give us everything and take everything thing away from us in every moment, he is giving us time to Love Him.
-Baba
Anyway did you worry about the death and pain in your childrens games? No, because they wern't real.
A person only beleiving in God isn't enough, otherwise your right there would be little pain, you have to become to wrapped in God that nothing but God is left, then the games over.
*Didn't I Tell You*
Didn't I tell you
not to go to that place?
It is me, who is your intimate friend.
In this imaginary plain of non-existence,
I am your spring of eternal life.
Even if you lose yourself in wrath
for a hundred thousand years,
at the end you will discover,
it is me, who is the culmination of your dreams.
Didn't I tell you
not to be satisfied with the veil of this world?
I am the master illusionist,
it is me, who is the welcoming banner at the gate of your contentment.
Didn't I tell you?
I am an ocean, you are a fish;
do not go to the dry land,
it is me, who is your comforting body of water.
Didn't I tell you
not to fall in this trap like a blind bird?
I am your wings, I am the strength in your wings,
I am the wind keeping you in flight.
Didn't I tell you
that they will kidnap you from the path?
They will steal your warmth,
and take your devotion away.
I am your fire, I am your heartbeat,
I am the life in your breath.
Didn't I tell you?
They will accuse you of all the wrongdoings,
they will call you ugly names,
they will make you forget
it is me, who is the source of your happiness.
Didn't I tell you?
Wonder not, how your life will turn out,
how you will ever get your world in order,
it is me, who is your omnipresent creator.
If your are a guiding torch of the heart,
know the path to that house.
If you are a person of God, know this,
It is me, who is the chief of the village of your life.
http://www.rumi.net/rumi_by_shiva.html
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#16
2003-09-10, 17:40 |
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Re: So, if God is real...
Look, God created us and gave us great abilities like thinking and choosing. With all those great abilities we have over every other living things comes responsabilities. He gave us birth and a place to live (earth) and we are responsible of our acts. I think God is up there and willing to help but in order to have his support and great love, you must have faith and find him your way. If you don't beleive in God and then go kill someone, he won't try to stop you because you chose to do it even if it is bad... its like when you become an adult, your parents still love you but they won't stop you doing bad things because you are responsible of your acts. They will be there if you need them though.
That's my opinion so don't try to flame as it won't change anything.  |
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#17
2003-09-13, 22:12 |
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Re: So, if God is real...
stop focusing on this life, if u accept jesus as your personal savior, follow the ten commandments, then u have no worry over death and starvation then u have true faith in entering heaven. if u question god then u have no faith, in him or his power. to tell u the truth i am not scared of dying. if u have faith u wouldnt b either.
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#18
2003-09-13, 22:47 |
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Re: So, if God is real...
dude shit happens, there is pain everywhere you turn, no matter what you're going to suffer atleast once in your lifetime. You're a pansy if you can't handle that, and you're a little bitch if you somehow think that God has forced you to suffer, it the human condition you little shit, now suck it up and kill yourself.
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#19
2003-09-13, 22:56 |
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Re: So, if God is real...
I will now randomly argue with random posts..incoherently...
L3d3ni:
"...why do bad things happen?"
We are formed in god's image: People are inherently evil and all of our actions are to satisfy ourselves, our urges and our desires, Including a desire to tourture and casue suffering, as well as entertain ourselves
:. wouldn't god by definition be drawn to such behavior? think that is wrong or evil? WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO QUESTION GOD!!!
---Beany---: "Suffering only exists where there is ignorance."
this argument is compleatly irrational and doesnt warrent a response.
---Beany---:"Maybe you don't believe in God because you don't realy understand him. You should strive to understand what God is all about"
Hmmm... And here I was thinking that you fanatics didn't want us to try and apply logic or undertanding to god becasue they dont apply to him...interesting hoe logic is important only sometimes when you talk about god.
Dark_Magneto: "If all paths lead to the same destination, then why not take the path of least resistance?"
because you should WANT to live a good life for god! These are just suggestions god is throwing out, the bible ect. as long as you beleive in jesus and accept him as your personal lord and savior and dont eat meat on the sabbath, you will go to heaven, but OBVIOUSLY when you get to heaven you will want to look back and say "I lived my life the way the lord wanted me to."
Hammer&Sickle: "It does not concern god whether we starve or let bloodshed happen. That all revolves around the idea of free will and god cannot interfere with that."
Well now Im really confused!! god cannot interfere with our free will and decisions? He doesnt protect people? what about then he gave moses super powers? what about when he told Noah to build the ark? he was interveining and changing the way people lived and died, He was protecting specific people and allowing others to die becasue he didn't value them. What about all the egyptian chariot drivers who died when the red sea closed on them? Why didn't god give THEM super powers?
JayMark: "look, God created us and gave us great abilities like thinking and choosing"
Did he realy? But if he has omniciance.. then doesnt he already know what we are going to do? if he is omnipotent, then whatever he wants us to do, we do, Like god wants me to write this response to these comments. In that way we are all guided by god so there is no way for you to argue with me, becasue I am following gods plan( the correct counter response is " Well, I'm following gods plan by arguing with you!")
...I have begun arguing with myself and therefore am nolonger compitent enough to continue typing
I will now go outside and marvel at God's creation (My new Benz 350M)..(Remember...God created EVERYTHING)
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2003-09-13, 23:46 |
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Re: So, if God is real...
quote:Originally posted by archaic999:
as long as you beleive in jesus and accept him as your personal lord and savior [b]and dont eat meat on the sabbath,
What the mother-fuck?
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you will go to heaven, but OBVIOUSLY when you get to heaven you will want to look back and say "I lived my life the way the lord wanted me to."
When I'm dying, I want to take a look at my life and say that I lived my life the way I wanted to, not the way some supernatural hegemon wanted to dictate it.
[This message has been edited by Dark_Magneto (edited 09-13-2003).]
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#21
2003-09-14, 00:54 |
archaic999
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Re: So, if God is real...
Dear Dark_Magneto:
as long as you beleive in jesus and accept him as your personal lord and savior and dont eat meat on the sabbath,= sarcastic
"When I'm dying, I want to take a look at my life and say that I lived my life the way I wanted to, not the way some supernatural hegemon wanted to dictate it."
Well, That's only true if you are some kind of libertarian objectivist! If you were a good submisive pro-authoritarian deluted donkey dick suck ass fuck glue sniffin' half a testicle base head sellin' plasm, you might think differently.
I guess what Im trying to say is "I'm a "bad person" and that is a good thing"
and "I use """" marks to often"
hmmm... somebody is at the door......
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#22
2003-09-14, 03:02 |
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Re: So, if God is real...
how does that 350m handle?
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#23
2003-09-14, 13:06 |
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Re: So, if God is real...
quote:Originally posted by archaic999:
---Beany---: "Suffering only exists where there is ignorance."
this argument is compleatly irrational and doesnt warrent a response.
Yet you responded.
Words can't express meaning well enough.
But don't worry folks. We can all be like archaic999. We can all jump to our own conclusions as to what someone means without prying into what makes people write certain messages.
You didn't even ask "Ignorant of what?", so how can you say it's irrational?
[This message has been edited by ---Beany--- (edited 09-14-2003).]
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#24
2003-09-14, 13:35 |
L3d3ni
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Re: So, if God is real...
Jesus loves the little children...
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