if you crack into a website but steal no info. and change nothing are you breaking the law? if so then what law is it-- i'll go google while i wait-- 057

http://www.rent-a-hacker.com/hacklaw.htm

found this but it just says you get in trouble if you use info for financial gain or keep records of obtained info but it says nothing about just viewing info-- i'll keep lookin'-- 057

if you break and enter into someones house, its still illegal.

i imagine the same law apply's to their computer.

i've been lookin' for a while but cant find anywhere that that is illegal(not gonna do it anyway)-- B&E is yes, but that's a little different- i will google cybercrimes-- 057

Even if you do nothing, yes, it's still very illegal.

but what law are you breaking?- from what i found it looks like the laws are state to state and it is a misdemeanor, maybe, BUT i cant find any law that says if you just access a computer/website and view it that it is illegal- i only find laws that say if you steal info or change info it is a crime but so far nothing on just looking through the system says it is illegal-- i'm not trying to justify anything nor will i crack into something just lookin' for the laws and have found nothing yet-- hmmm- 057

here we go

NEW YORK

§ 156.10. Computer trespass

A person is guilty of computer trespass when he knowingly uses or causes to be used a computer or computer service without authorization and:

1. he does so with an intent to commit or attempt to commit or further the commission of any felony; or

2. he thereby knowingly gains access to computer material. Computer trespass is a class E felony.

*--notice the 'and:' which means you also have to commit the following to be charged-- so i found it is a class C misd. and only about 6 states have computer trespass laws- FOIA, totse iz tha shit--

opps, my bad -comp. trespass is a felony??? in NY if u commit the 'and:'?? but other states it appears to be a class C misd. 057

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Im sure it is still illegal, people have alot of personal stuff on their website. Someone cant just go in change nothing, but still get away with snooping thru your stuff.

Thats kind of like some guy gong into your house while your at work. Walking around looking at things picking his nose.

Then when you get home he just says, sorry I was just testing your security.

He'd have to goto jail.

you know jack shit- shut up stupid-- B&E- physical break in is different than cybercrime idiot--that's like saying if i spy on someone with binoculars it is the same as B&E-- your retarded, try to breath under water-- my point, laws have not been written for simple cyber intrusion -- okay, crack FBI or national security database and your fucked but just snooping around your average site appears to be a misdemenor or not even a charge in some states yet-- 057

Read the Patriot Act.

http://www.keytlaw.com/netlaw/patriotact.htm#B.%20Subsection%201030(c)(2)(C)

All you need is intention to damage information... and trust me when I say this, it's very very easy for a judge to be convinced that you intended to damage information by trespassing into that computer.

This isn't petty State Law bullshit, this is Federal.

thanks 4 the link -- 057

crack is wack

i think crack is illegal

quote:

i think crack is illegal

I think you are an idot

how is it that in thread you make. you end up posting your own answer to your own question anyways? you should research and look around more before you post a thread but at the same time i spose your helping the comunity... ok im confused. ill just go sit in my hole ....