I stopped reading half way through, but does it mention mental conciousness?

quote:Originally posted by Domenation:

I stopped reading half way through, but does it mention mental conciousness?

It's the point of all meditation

quote:Originally posted by ate:

You just have to relate it to your own life.

it has been said that the lower levels are conected to "hell" and after reading this i can relate. The first time i have ever done salvia (its a spiritual drug once used by indians for spiritual guidance and stuff like that) i now believe the place i went to was the first deminsion. Everything was 2d. it was like i was 3d then i was shredded into strips like a paper shredder and pasted down. i had "the fear" take over me. it was the most scared i have ever been in my life. everything seemed so real. and it seemed to last a life time. i now believe that i went into my unconcious and was in the lower levels. i have done salvia once after that and and a very similar trip. the same fear and changing to 2d. because where i went to in my head nothing was allowed to be 3d. and in the third deminsion is where we only see 3d. which leads me to believe that i had traveled to another deminsion. and durring my revalition it wasnt like i was the only one there. it seemed like there were people all arround me but they were already pasted down and i had some how popd up and became 3d and thats when they pasted me down and i had to waite till they were done pasting me down till i came back to "reality" (slightly reminded me of the matrix) i know i have rambled on and misspelled some words but if anybody had any feed back of what u think this might be i am very interested in hearing it.

quote:Originally posted by ate:

^ You covered everything.

Dimensional shifts in which case a humans transfers it's conscious energy into another plane, or another beingness (object, person) can only be related to the only two other so such dimensional shifts. Death or rebirth.

The beginning of a trip I was in was exactly like yours. I felt like I entered a two dimensional world, and I was accompanied by an infinite amount of me's which existed along in there with me. We were all one, yet we each had a special difference which made so many of us.

Just like in astral projection, when you travel in the spirit, objects, consciousness, anything this world can interact with you. Just like in dreams. The salvia trip was the same way.

Pasting down was just transfering the energy, any process of change can be painful or fearful at times, it's natural. If you wouldn't have been thrown into the place so quickly and then been dragged out all the same, the feelings probably would've been like mine; of excitement and bliss.

Most people report that, at a friends house a little bit ago, everyone who tripped said they could see something like a face, a being, an emotion, or a distinct shape in an inanimate and 2D covering or object. It's like the world's consciousness around them became 3D, while theirs became 2D.

It must mean that there is only relativity and that 3D only seems "3D" because of a view from a 2D world, and vice versa.

The 2 dimensional space you entered may be the world of thoughts inside your head, were you only existed as a conceptual thought would as only a line segment of an ever infinite stream of consciousness. While there were other thoughts all around you, tied down to the same flat platform you were.

this is the most truthful thread I have ever seen on totse. i am certian this is how it is. every one should be working on there minds, body's, and souls to get ready for the next dimension. the only hell that exist is not making it to the next dimension and having to repeat this 3rd dimension, over and over again until we get it right.

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ate.....u said i would have had a more plesant expierence if i hadnt been thrown into it so fast. i think i know what u mean. salvia comes in i think 3 or 4 different doses 5x 10x 15x and 20x the first time i did salvia i had no idea there were different doses and just bought the 20x thinking it was like pot and i jumped right in. this is a crazy thing to do afterwards i looked up some stuff about salvia and people should work thier way up starting at 5x or so... and when i came out of my expierence all i could think about was telling people about what i saw and that what we see now is not real all i could say when i came to was " THIS IS NOT REAL WE HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE" over and over. this is not a coincidence because how is that people that have done salvia have had VERY SIMILAR expierences. there is always 2d and paper refrences and walls and bricks being involved which makes me think of masons before i read this thread i thought the masosn ruled the world. and that behind this brightly colored paper u can peal it back and see bricks. idk where that fits in here just thought i would throw it in. Is there any way going to this deminsion staying calm and maybe looking arround. maybe thru meditation? maybe there is more to buddism then everybody thinks.