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| Bad Ideas Fraud, vandalism, torture, theft, revenge, scams, and other bad ideas. Please do a forum search and site search before posting. Questions about explosives, drugs, weapons, and hacking do not belong in this forum. Please keep things theoretical in nature. Do not admit to crimes you have done or are planning to do. |
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2003-08-07, 02:11
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Hello, I been in some need of big money for a while. So I have talk to some friends of mine's and they say one of the best ways to get big huge cash almost overnight(besides drugs and robbing a bank) is becoming a carder. But the thing that I was told is that I would need someone who in the carders buzziness to do this. I was also told I might need a internet hacker. I was told that there are venders out there on the streets and over the internet and oversea. Problem is were do I start? I'm looking for a vendor or a hacker. I'm only looking for Credit cards that I can use over the ATM machine. Cards that have the pins on them. I have hear of this before from 20/20 and primetime news about a year back. Is there anyone out there that know anything if there ways you can help me. I'm willing to cut into the pie. Please let me know!!!!
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# 2

2003-08-07, 05:43
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Why don't you want to sell drugs? It's about as safe as carding!
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# 3

2003-08-07, 08:32
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Selling drugs is a big risk!!! If your not click in a prison gang. The prison gangs that I got down here are beat up other drug dealers in my area!!! So I got to thing of a new and differant way of making money. Just asking do you know of any hackers since your from Austin. If you do I be willing to post my E-mail on this board. Thanks
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# 4

2003-08-07, 09:53
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Damn! I wanted to show off my amazing text files today! Oh well, I'll just have to show some old ideas.
1. Dumpster diving
A classic, not everyone does this one because they are afraid of breaking a nail or something. So get ready for a little jumping and diving.
Equipment: A bag
There are many allies we just walk past and ignore, but those allies sometimes lead to a gold mind of stuff. Look around and try and find a CD/games/electronics store or somewhere that something valuable will be thrown out.
They actually do throw out decent things, but they might have a little scratch or a bit of jam on it, something stupid like that. So they think it wont sell and just dump it.
Be patient finding where they keep their dumpster, it can be a little tricky trying to find it. It should be behind the shop in an ally hidden.
Once you have found the little gold mine, don’t just leap over and injure your self, stand on something and step in, if there's nothing on the top layer, dive right in my friend, move stuff and I guarantee you’ll find something nice.
So of the stuff I found was nice so i kept it, that’s the bonus, you can either keep or sell what you ‘found’.
When exiting the area make sure you’re leaving like you were just in there looking for someone. Clean your self off too. Good luck!
2. Shop Lifting
Shop lifting is a risky little
Ok first off, to make it really easy, you need a magic bag. I tell you how to make that later.
You’ve probably already seen my ‘common sense of shop lifting’ thread but here it is again.
Here is the common sense of shop lifting (just in case you’re stupid)
Shoplifting
Ok, the first of all there's some points that needed to be pointed out before you do it the right way........Its called common sense
Appearance:
First off your face expression.......Now don’t go in looking angry, moody, nervous...If you try and tackle your nerves as much as you can..It should be enough......Your clothes need to be right as well.......Don’t go in looking like some street gangster....e.g. Hooded jumper with the hood over your head and hands in your pocket and Fubu trousers..........Look casual..........Neat....Clean
Behaviour:
What you don’t want to do is....Go in.....put the first thing you see in your pocket and walk out.......For obvious reasons.....Just go in the shop like you’re going in normally.......If there’s a turn you can take straight away...Like a left in your way in....Don’t shoot that way like you’re in there to snatch and run...casually walk over to the chocolate bars like you’re looking at the ’wide selection’...... To make it look really realistic.....Scratch your chin......Make like you are just in there to shop.......Pick a bar look at it...then look on the back ...put it back.....With your actions so far.....The shop keeper will have his eyes of you....Step back to make it look like you’re seeing the whole view of the chocolate/ sweets......then start walking around the shop to try and find your target.......
Camera check!!:
Once you’ve done the behaviour show....Quickly glance at if and what cameras are checking you out.........Use these positions to your advantage.........
Are you really looking?:
Once you have found your bric-a-brac......Pretend you’re looking at it........When you’re out of sight of cameras and people....Either slip it up your sleeve, in your bag, down your trousers..........If you don’t do this quickly.....You’re fucked.........
The information I have displayed is only for entertainment and information purposes only.....
Shoplifting is a CRIME.....Please put that in consideration and think......
3. Vending Machines
There are so many methods being motioned lately about vending machines, so I’ll only say a few:
i) Easy, sticking a tissue, preferably wet, up the coin return slot. And you know what happens next. The bad thing about this method is the location. DON’T do it in a school vending, people will complain and tell the teachers and eventually get their money back.
ii) I live in England so the money difference is annoying to explain for this method, so this only works for the people who live in England. Most of the vending machines take 2 pound coins now, this is a good thing.
If you can find/get an old 10 coin, the big ones, there are about the same weight as 2 pound coins almost, but a little lighter, all you need to do is put little bits of duct tape on it, not around it so it makes jagged sides or it wont work. This should make it the same weight and the vending machine will recognize it as a two pound coin. You can either get a drink or just a real two pounds.
iii) This method has been knocked by people saying it doesn’t work, but once you’ve practised, it does. Get a coin and put blue tack half way around the edge of the coin, make sure its not to big a bulge. The put the string on the blue tack, push hard so it stays on. Insert it in, and when you see the little screen say how ever much you put in, pull it back up, don’t yank it up or it will get stuck. You know the rest.
There many others..
Where be me change?
Go to a shop, and fined something that is about 5 £ or $ and give the shop keeper and 50, thus him giving you some coins and five and 2 twenties, slip the ONE twenty up your sleeve saying its missing. You know the rest.
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# 5

2003-08-08, 09:15
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Thanks for the help Tokolosh but I'm looking for a scam that will run in to $50,000 on up to $250,000. The scams you to told me about will get me at best $1000. But thanks!! Anyone else willing to help!! Thanks
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# 6

2003-08-08, 11:35
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man, if you are talking about that kind of money you are either going to have to spend a hell of a lot of time pulling a scam, or pull a heist. Something you could do is talk to a criminally connected person(hell's angels, etc), and just ask them if they have any work...I have heard they pay well, depending on what you are doing.
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# 7

2003-08-08, 14:02
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Jenkwater:
man, if you are talking about that kind of money you are either going to have to spend a hell of a lot of time pulling a scam, or pull a heist. Something you could do is talk to a criminally connected person(hell's angels, etc), and just ask them if they have any work...I have heard they pay well, depending on what you are doing.
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I heard you get $1000 for each time you let them ram you up the arse
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# 8

2003-08-08, 22:48
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that's some gooooooooood dough!!
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# 9

2003-08-09, 03:53
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by ComradeAsh:
I heard you get $1000 for each time you let them ram you up the arse
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Is that for each individual thrust, or every distinct session of love-making?
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# 10

2003-08-09, 04:01
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I can already tell you don't have the thinking skills to pull off a 5 figure scam or heist.
Look into the text files on scamming in the Bad Ideas section, there are plenty of good scams there.
Query: How old are you and why do you need so much money? It could help us help you.
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#11
 2003-08-09, 04:38
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pontiac_bandit78 
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Re: Need some help on making money!!!!!
If you want that kind of cash, why dont you highjack a semi load of something valuable and sell it fast at a low price.
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#12
 2003-08-09, 06:01
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Bigrediron 
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Re: Need some help on making money!!!!!
Thanks for the replys but first of all I'm not gay!!!!! And to answer Muramune questions I'm 20 and I'm just looking to live the high rollers life!!! You know bacily to get some puntang. Muramune if you know of any way if you can help me please do. If anyone does I will be more then happen to cut anyone into the piece of the pie. I have done my reseach on carding on this page and news papers and I know there big hug money in it.
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#13
 2003-08-09, 06:08
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XcapuchiX 
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Re: Need some help on making money!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by Bigrediron:
Hello, I been in some need of big money for a while. So I have talk to some friends of mine's and they say one of the best ways to get big huge cash almost overnight(besides drugs and robbing a bank) is becoming a carder. But the thing that I was told is that I would need someone who in the carders buzziness to do this. I was also told I might need a internet hacker. I was told that there are venders out there on the streets and over the internet and oversea. Problem is were do I start? I'm looking for a vendor or a hacker. I'm only looking for Credit cards that I can use over the ATM machine. Cards that have the pins on them. I have hear of this before from 20/20 and primetime news about a year back. Is there anyone out there that know anything if there ways you can help me. I'm willing to cut into the pie. Please let me know!!!!
email me at Westcoastaudio2003@yahoo.com
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#14
 2003-08-09, 20:14
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VictorThree 
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Re: Need some help on making money!!!!!
Don't go for the big money kid, your not going to get it.
If your going to get into Carding (using stolen credit cards), you better have some knowledge on IRC, a huge proxy list, an anonymous computer, and a secret drop-off point. You won't make 50,250k at all, that would take tons and tons of time. Theres also a 50% chance you'll get caught (they can track CC orders via IP addresses).
Good luck 
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#15
 2003-08-09, 22:23
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Re: Need some help on making money!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by Bigrediron:
Thanks for the help Tokolosh but I'm looking for a scam that will run in to $50,000 on up to $250,000. The scams you to told me about will get me at best $1000. But thanks!! Anyone else willing to help!! Thanks
I know 2 ways to get that much money.
1) hitman
2) Large quantaties of Coca or Sosa
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#16
 2003-08-10, 07:02
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TheDragon 
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Re: Need some help on making money!!!!!
Yup, I wouldn't go for so much cash so soon. You start small and build up. I'll give you a little guide to how to make some cash.
1. Video game/DVD theft:
Risk:Moderate if you follow this method
Equipent:
Clothing with pockets.
A paperclip, or some small pointed object that can be conceiled in your hand easily.
Procedure:
This is designed for Best Buy and Circuit City. Places liek FuncoLand and GameStop have games behind a shelf.
Find a game or DVD that is not in a plastic security box. Your goal is to open one end of the plastic, slip your hand inside the case, remove the disc.
On the case, on the right side, there is usually an rectangular indentation. Unless your a dumbass, you know this indicates where the box opens. You first need to slit open that side of the plastic wrap covering the case. ONLY slit open that side. You don't want to be seen crumbling up plastic.
Open up the case as best you can and get your hand inside (you may get a few scratches, dont be a pussy). Remove the disc and put it your pocket, pants, etc.
The actual removal and conceilment of the disc should be quick. You want to commit to that, so be sure noone is watching when you start it.
At Best Buy, most Greatest Hits games don't have the security box, and all DVDs have no security box. So those are your targets.
Steal some crap that people might want and then sell it. People are preferable to sell to than a game store, as people can be bargained with so that you make more $. Game stores usually rip you off (they buy a game off you for 1 buck and then sell it for 10).
2. Dropping minor expenses.
You can drop minor expenses like candy and pop by lifting those from Osco or DOminicks. Its good practice and fairly easy to do. I reccomend practicing with these type of jobs before you pull off #1. I would spend like 7 bucks a week buying snacks and pop. And now, thanks to lifting, I saved 7 bucks. haha. Its also good to avoid paying entrance fees for stuff. Like if you go to the movies, if possible, sneak in. And theater hop also, so you can see 2-3 movies in one visit.
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#17
 2003-08-10, 07:06
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jumpunderaboat 
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Re: Need some help on making money!!!!!
50-250k...ha...give up already
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#18
 2003-08-10, 07:26
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havocdaemon 
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Re: Need some help on making money!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by VictorThree:
Don't go for the big money kid, your not going to get it.
If your going to get into Carding (using stolen credit cards), you better have some knowledge on IRC, a huge proxy list, an anonymous computer, and a secret drop-off point. You won't make 50,250k at all, that would take tons and tons of time. Theres also a 50% chance you'll get caught (they can track CC orders via IP addresses).
Good luck
Wow... high tech. *smacks Victor upside the head* OR you could use a payphone, or jack somebody elses line, lol...
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