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| Bad Ideas Fraud, vandalism, torture, theft, revenge, scams, and other bad ideas. Please do a forum search and site search before posting. Questions about explosives, drugs, weapons, and hacking do not belong in this forum. Please keep things theoretical in nature. Do not admit to crimes you have done or are planning to do. |
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#1
 2003-07-20, 07:56
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IhiLani 
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fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
This might seem like a stupid question, but I've heard lots of rumors about how shitty the info in the anarchists cookbook is and how it'll kill you if you try it. So i was wondering, has anyone ever actually been hurt by doing something from that damned book?
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#2
 2003-07-20, 08:11
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
Heres my theory. A group of geek bbs surfers started making text files. They wanted to feel rebellious, probably been reading up on anti gov txt files, so they started making txt files of their own with the "bad ideas" kind of feel. They had never actually used explosives or anything like that, so they made guesses. Everything they said was just theoretical and they never tested it, + school yard rumors that no one had the yarbles to try out. 1 example would be the 2 liter bottle filled up about an inch with gunpowder. First of all this isnt dangerous, second of all it wouldnt explode to "cause distractions" It would fizzle and burn bright and that would be the end of it. This isnt a dangerous example, but its an example of guesswork, LOTS of it. In fact i think thats actually in the totse archives. But anyway, the anarchist cookbook is entertaining, but not to be applied for real use. Totse has good information, but always confirm your thoughts before testing them out by asking around in forums. Half will flame, half will provide insight and will be willing to teach if youre willing to learn. Get used to that. Some people say the cookbook is a government conspiracy so all undesirables would kill themselves trying to impliment the information in it, i dont buy it. (but then again its said that there was an actual book before the net book that was entirely different) Im not sure, i bet someone else can fill you in on the rest.
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#3
 2003-07-20, 08:22
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Garrison 
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
I've found it to be pretty reliable for the most part. It's not just a bunch of internet text files, the book has been in print for decades. The author sold all rights to a publisher and he gets no royalties on the purchase of hardback copies, so he issued a statement saying how much he regretting writing it and how dangerous everything in it is. I'm fairly certain he's just pissed that he doesn't get money for it anymore -- can you blame him?
The internet text files, however, are VERY easily toyed with and thus unreliable and possibly dangerous. All it takes is an asshole to change a couple numbers around and you'll end up blowing your face off, so for anything heavy duty that you don't know shit about, I'd suggest buying a hard copy or getting it from the library, or other books on the topics.
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#4
 2003-07-20, 08:31
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
Read The Anarchist Cookbook FAQ ( http://www.righto.com/anarchy/index.html )
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#5
 2003-07-20, 10:40
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ObakeYatsu 
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
IMO, its only good for laughs.
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#6
 2003-07-20, 13:06
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devoiced 
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
quote:Originally posted by 655321:
1 example would be the 2 liter bottle filled up about an inch with gunpowder. First of all this isnt dangerous, second of all it wouldnt explode to "cause distractions" It would fizzle and burn bright and that would be the end of it.
those work pretty good accually. the escaping gas doesnt have enough time to get out the hole in the top so it bursts the bottle. same idea as a dry ice bomb or any other pressure bomb.
http://krimzonpyro.com/ep/projectsdevicesdir/bottlebomb.html
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#7
 2003-07-20, 13:41
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AOD 
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
Fuck you people are stupid. SCREW THE FUCKING TOP ON.
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#8
 2003-07-20, 13:58
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Sir_Kirby 
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
The Anarchists Cookbook is really not that great. The greatest Anarchists are the innovators, not the replicators. I'm not saying don't use the tried and tested, I'm just saying that you should go out there and create something
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#9
 2003-07-21, 18:31
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Slithzerikai 
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
quote:Originally posted by Garrison:
I've found it to be pretty reliable for the most part.
Translation: I've never actually tried to do anything from the Anarchists' Cookbook.
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#10
 2003-07-21, 19:02
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
Everyone hates the AC, I ask you- Why? Nearly all of it works, and the original Anarchist cookbook, gave birth to files, such as the A files which is respected by most, I've not done much out of the Anarchist cookbook, yet what I have done, has worked (With a few exceptions)
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#11
 2003-07-21, 19:07
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Find me motherfucker
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
quote:Originally posted by Siatek:
Nearly all of it works
I cant stress this enough.
Dont post if youre drunk
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#12
 2003-07-21, 19:55
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
The ACB you find online is not even the real ACB. The real Anarchist Cookbook was an actual book published sometime in the early 70's [I'm not sure of the exact date].
Both are pretty shitty sources of information, but the version found online is just horrible. It wasn't even written by the Jolly Roger and whoever the hell else calims to have written the articles. I've found almost all of the files in the [online] ACB as seperate files dated around the late 80's, not written by the Jolly Roger or any of those other assholes.
So basically, a couple of assholes put together a bunch of shitty information wirrten by other people, called it their own, and ripped off the name of an actual book. Its ridiculous.
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#13
 2003-07-21, 21:33
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
Look at www.textfiles.com (http://www.textfiles.com) You find nearly every ACB article separate, written by 5 different guys. Pretty fucked up that that many people would take credit for someone elses poorly written work.
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#14
 2003-07-21, 21:34
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
quote:Originally posted by devoiced:
those work pretty good accually. the escaping gas doesnt have enough time to get out the hole in the top so it bursts the bottle. same idea as a dry ice bomb or any other pressure bomb.
http://krimzonpyro.com/ep/projectsdevicesdir/bottlebomb.html
Hmm, well I made one once and it just burned a hole in the side. I suppose I didnt seal the top well enough around the hole or something. Its hard to remember events of your early youth (12), guess i was wrong.
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#15
 2003-07-21, 21:52
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
Hell yeah most of i works, but 95 percent of the time the manufacterer of the explosive is injured in the process.
7 parts KClO3
3 parts sulfer
Yeah, its a powerful explosive, but by the time they tell you to use it in a pipe bomb it would have already exploded, and torn your arms off.
The point is to leave the ACB alone, and read it for a laugh. I know some of the stuff may sound interesting to most of you 10 year olds, but most of it will do nothing but blow your arms off and kill you.
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#16
 2003-07-21, 23:56
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Slithzerikai 
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
quote:Originally posted by IcEColdPlaYA:
7 parts KClO3
3 parts sulfer
Tell me they don't tell you to put a chlorate + sulfur mix in a pipe bomb... tell me they don't, agh...
I was literally going through the ACB, going "Wouldn't work... wouldn't work... would kill you if you tried it..."
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#17
 2003-07-22, 01:21
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gh05t 
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
The Tennis Ball Bomb works, so does the Fertilizer Bomb. I've tested them both
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#18
 2003-07-22, 02:12
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
quote:Originally posted by ObakeYatsu:
IMO, its only good for laughs.
I agree. The Mcdonalds thing and some of the others are funny. About the 1-2 inch of gunpowder in a 2 litre bottle, the expanding gasses from the powder would pop the bottle, creating about as much noise as a dry ice "bomb". It would be loud, but it's a waste of powder.
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#19
 2003-07-22, 06:03
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
There is the Anarchist Cookbook, and then there's the Anarchist Handbook.
One is worth the paper it's printed on or the bandwidth it takes to download the text, the other isn't.
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#20
 2003-07-22, 06:11
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
Hey, theres the sheer humor value. I just downloaded it again for oldtimes sake, and i look back seeing the stuff i actually BELIEVED when i was 11. Such as the zipgun with a pentube as a barrel, i skimmed over it and i didnt see anywhere about reinforcing the barrel to prevent explosion. Not that a plastic barrel is smart to begin with. (this was in article 2 btw, a sure injury/death in article 2!!!!)
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#21
 2003-07-22, 06:47
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
quote:Originally posted by AOD:
Fuck you people are stupid. SCREW THE FUCKING TOP ON.
Fuck YOU'RE stupid. The fucking top is screwed on. There's a hole in it for the fuse.
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#22
 2003-07-22, 10:27
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
If you want a good book. Get The Improvised Munitions Handbook vol.1-3. Great shit and it all works.
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#23
 2003-07-22, 11:44
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AOD 
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
quote:Originally posted by Angiospermicidal:
Fuck YOU'RE stupid. The fucking top is screwed on. There's a hole in it for the fuse.
Why? Have you people no brains? There is no need for ANY holes. If you think different, you're stupid.
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#24
 2003-07-25, 06:31
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
which ACB-type book is better then??
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#25
 2003-07-25, 08:41
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
^Wow, a real life 1337 newb has graced
our forum.
Seriously, both sides have a point. Alot of
stuff in there works, but it is very poorly
written. If you were to follow the instructions exactly as it were written
on alot of that stuff, you would either
get something that doens't work, or you
would end up doing something that causes
you very serious injury/death.
A new version is released every year, and
every year some dork tacks on 60+ that are
completely fucking irrelevant and have
nothing to do with the original text,
whatever it is, and whoever wrote it.
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#26
 2003-07-25, 19:32
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
I completely agree with Muramune,
and i suggest that before trying any of those recipes for explosives, try making the recipe in significantly smaller proportions or else you will likely not be able to play the piano again...
As for the rest, in phreaking in hacking, mostly all of it is completely obsolete and outdated.
And as for another ACB book... try searching google so you dont pester everybody asking "uhh... hi how can i make a bom that are big?"
--cashual21
*and remember! use google godammit!
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#27
 2003-07-26, 01:55
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IhiLani 
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
my question wasnt about what info was relevant in the acb...nor was it about making bombs. all i asked was if anyone has ever sustained injuries from doing anything in the book. i could care less about that other shit, i just wanted to know if anyone was stupid enough to try it and lose a finger or something.
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#28
 2003-07-26, 02:12
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
well obviously people have sustained injuries you stupid fuck, half of those recipes are intended to blow your stupid ass to hell anyway.
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#29
 2003-07-26, 05:24
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IhiLani 
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
yes dipshit i know PEOPLE have, i was asking if anyone on totse had ever been injured. read my goddamn question over a few times before you pollute my topic with your shit, its wasting my time. go fuck yourself. someone else please post and give me something more interesting to read.
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#30
 2003-08-18, 07:44
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
quote:Originally posted by Slithzerikai:
Translation: I've never actually tried to do anything from the Anarchists' Cookbook.
Make sure you know what you are talking about before you tell me what I'm talking about.
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#31
 2003-08-19, 18:50
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
my cookbook is 100% safe. everything was tested by me and its proven 100% safe. nobody have ever been hurt.
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#32
 2003-08-19, 20:55
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Slithzerikai 
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Re: fuckups due to anarchist cookbook....
Go to hell. Stop trolling. If you had actually tested everything in that cookbook you wouldn't be around to tell us about it. We know you didn't write it. You're just a 13-year-old fanboy looking for attention.
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