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Old 2005-01-30, 06:12
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I used to buy pills called Yellow Jackets, about a year ago, but last spring they changed the name (to Yellow swarms.. what a retarded name) and more.. or MOST importantly the ingredients.. before it was a 300/i think 25mg ratio of caffeine to ephedra but now it just has some other herbal shit so they are your average diet pill.. and none of the other pills have ephedra around here either.. btw im in Ohio, has this happened around any of you/do you know of any pills out there with ephedra still?
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Old 2005-01-30, 06:14
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Hasn't ephedra just recently been scheduled? They don't carry it around here at all. Try going to GNC or some vitamin shop... they will most likley have what're looking for... if all else fails, try froogle.com
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Old 2005-01-30, 06:15
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They probably realized that ephedra sucked ass.
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Old 2005-01-30, 06:18
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ephedra is now illegal i beleive.
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Old 2005-01-30, 06:19
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"On April 12, 2004, a final rule went into effect prohibiting the sale of dietary supplements containing ephedrine alkaloids (ephedra).

Ephedra, also called Ma huang, is a naturally occurring substance derived from plants. Its principal active ingredient is ephedrine, which when chemically synthesized is regulated as a drug. In recent years ephedra products have been extensively promoted to aid weight loss, enhance sports performance, and increase energy.

But FDA has determined that ephedra presents an unreasonable risk of illness or injury. It has been linked to significant adverse health effects, including heart attack and stroke."

http://www.fda.gov/oc/initiatives/ephedra/february2004/

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Old 2005-01-30, 06:20
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Why does everyone think ephedra is illegal? The only thing that happened is it was banned by the FDA as a supplement, not by the DEA as a chemical.
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Old 2005-01-30, 06:21
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I never said it was illegal- that link just explained why it can't be found in those Yellow Jackets. Never cared for the shit anyway.
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Old 2005-01-30, 06:24
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Finn:

I never said it was illegal
I was talking mainly to Ozzy, and to others, since I've heard others say it's illegal too. Your post hadn't even been posted when I pressed "post reply".
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Old 2005-01-30, 06:24
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hmm i googled it and came up with some fda thing from 2003 but it didn't cover my question so thanks Finn. I suppose the question is if it is illegal or recently scheduled or what.. damn i wish i had been 18 last year to stock up because illegal or not i loved yellow jackets
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Old 2005-01-30, 06:26
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by ultrafresh:

I suppose the question is if it is illegal or recently scheduled or what..
Uh...for like the third time, it's legal and uncontrolled.
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Old 2005-01-30, 06:28
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Default Re: Where did all the Ephedra go?

like what happened with you, your post wasn't posted when i posted mine
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Old 2005-01-30, 06:31
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To ttt4a (since, you know, we can't quote)-

It's all good.
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Old 2005-01-30, 09:55
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Default Re: Where did all the Ephedra go?

I get pure ephedrine from a site in Canada. This is the good shit-pure ephedrine hcl-with no guaifenesin. I think it's way better than the ephedrine/guaifenesin combo tabs. It's kinda expensive compared to what it used to be. 50 8 mg tabs are about $6(American). I used to get 1000 25 mg tabs for about $30 years ago. If you want the link let me know. They ship to the US too. However, it could get seized by customs and you'll lose your $$$.

I can still buy the 25 mg ephedrine/200 mg guaifenesin made by Proactive Labs Inc. at AM/PM stores for about $5.99 for 48 tabs(in a box of 3 16 count blister packs). There's a 2 box maximum/per day purchase restriction though.



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