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Old 2003-08-12, 18:32
insertcooldrugnamehere insertcooldrugnamehere is offline
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Default "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

Yeah. I was just on freevibe.com looking at all of the propaganda. I saw this "story" from a kid who said he was 12 and had done every drug in the world, but then he quit because his 15 year old brother died from an LSD overdose. Now, I'm fairly a newbie when it comes to anything other than pot and whatnot, but isn't it impossible to overdose on LSD? I mean, could you actually die? Seems like senseless propaganda to me...
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Old 2003-08-12, 18:37
Rizzuh Rizzuh is offline
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, that is DEFENATLY full of crap, it would be way 2 expencive to die from an overdose from lsd,
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Old 2003-08-12, 18:38
I_Tweak_Too I_Tweak_Too is offline
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

yes we know this already, that site is pure bullshit, only go there if you want to be pissed off, or if you want to laugh at stupidity.

we discused that exact one you are talking about a while ago, search the forum you should find it.
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Old 2003-08-12, 18:42
KungFuJim KungFuJim is offline
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

This story is complete and utter bullshit because

1. The LD50 for acid is very very high. Meaning u have to take ALOT to die and i mean ALOT.

2. I doubt it that he would have enough money to get that much acid unless he had a lab.

3. Ive never heard of anyone dying from an acid overdose. Even though ive heard of people killing themselves by being stupid.

I hate when 12 year olds lie like that. He's probobly smoke pot once and thinks hes hardcore enogh to say hes done alot of drugs when in fact hes smoke a 1/4 of one doobie.



Mr.Monk aka Blizzard of oz
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Old 2003-08-12, 18:42
insertcooldrugnamehere insertcooldrugnamehere is offline
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

OK. I thought it sounded ridiculous. Sounded a lot like those old "guy takes massive hit of LSD and thinks he's orange juice" urban legends.

I like to go to freevibe to post my own bullshit stories. I just posted one under the name "Debbie" saying that I used to smoke weed every day and do other shit... UNTIL I saw that commercial about how drugs fund terrorism. So I said:

"No way do I want my money to pay for violence! I never smoked weed or did any other drug after seeing that commercial! In fact, I took it a step further. I also stopped buying gas and paying my taxes. Now I can be sure that my money won't bring the deaths of innocent people. Thanks freevibe.com"
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Old 2003-08-12, 18:48
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

Not a chance it's true. LSD might fuck you up mentally, but kill you? no.
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Old 2003-08-12, 18:54
Rizzuh Rizzuh is offline
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

is it posible u could get an ilergic reaction from it
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Old 2003-08-12, 19:04
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

quote:Originally posted by insertcooldrugnamehere:



"No way do I want my money to pay for violence! I never smoked weed or did any other drug after seeing that commercial! In fact, I took it a step further. I also stopped buying gas and paying my taxes. Now I can be sure that my money won't bring the deaths of innocent people. Thanks freevibe.com"

Very nice, I like. Taxes sucks ass.

I remeber reading somewhere on Erowid that the LD50 of Acid when compared to Asprin is like comparing water and drain cleaner... stupid propaganda.
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Old 2003-08-12, 19:11
D3lirious D3lirious is offline
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

XnCid -- I've been wanting to tell my story forever...this is a story about drugs and the horrible influence it had on my life. I first started smoking when i was 12...i had a babysitter. she'd get high in my backyard. one day, i was watching her blow a fat one, and she asked me, you want a puff? being young and stupid, i said sure. it was the worst decision of my life, i wish freevibe was around back then to change my mind. but anyways, i took a hit and got high. and for the next hour i couldnt take my mind off sex, what they say about weed is true, it makes you have unprotected sex. i went to my girlfriend's house, who was 13 at the time, and raped her. i thought that was gonna be the end of that, but to my surprise, she had AIDS...how she got AIDS at 13 beats me, but i got AIDS because i smoked marijuana. i didnt find out until 2 years later, after i had unprotected sex while on marijuana with many many girl, dozens, and infected all of them. all because of weed... sad? well thats not even the end of my story. by 15 year old i was shooting up ecstasy and plugging crack, and snorting elmer's glue up my nose. don't believe anything they tell you, weed IS a gateway drug. it makes you go crazy. this might sound made up but right now im in a junevile detention center, because i killed both my parents when i was stoned. THANKS A LOT MARIJUANA YOU RUINED ME. if i could change anything about my life it would be the first time i smoked weed which made me have unprotected sex w/ my babysitter, who gave me AIDS. oh yeah btw, right now im having an untreatable malignant brain tumor caused by weed. my life is pretty much ruined, all because of marijuana. so dont make the same mistake i did. when your friends ask you to rip one off that bong, JUST SAY NO. or you'll end up having sex with one of them and get AIDS and nobody wants that.
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Old 2003-08-12, 19:11
insertcooldrugnamehere insertcooldrugnamehere is offline
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

Hahaha I'll crap my pants if they actually post that. I also considered posting "I hate drugs!" messages under a redneck name with references to having a crush on my sister, how my church is better than drugs, etc. with really bad grammar and spelling. I love being a little bastard

Allergic reaction to LSD? Never heard of that.
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Old 2003-08-12, 19:11
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It just proves how much grasp the ruling forces of COCKSUCK(the world, whatever you wanna call it) have on reality.

I think its nice with those sites, keeps things the way they are, bliss, and sure golly do we live in a wonderful time and do not need changes do we?
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Old 2003-08-12, 19:14
D3lirious D3lirious is offline
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

LOLLL THIS ONE IS REALLY FUNNY!!!!

wheatie -- my family is true live potheads. my parents are realy messed up and made me and my sister messed up because i gardened my parents weed in the seventh grade and soometimes they would call me in sick so i could do the gardening. i was never allowed to touch the forbiden fruit (as my dad called it) and one day when they were away i tried it. i smoked in my room with my dog and he sat there the whole time. i could tell he knew something was wrong with me and i could tell something was wrong with him. seeing my dog like that made me ralzie weed is the billdog of drungs.
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Old 2003-08-12, 19:57
Rhino086 Rhino086 is offline
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

Are drugs always bad?

Illegal drugs are always bad. There's no good use for sniffing glue or snorting heroin.

But many drugs were developed as medications by doctors to help treat patients with very specific medical conditions. And for those people, drugs make sense. Unfortunately, many of these drugs are used by people who don't need them. Which, if you think about it, is kind of like going for chemotherapy when you don't have cancer. In other words, really dumb.



hehe thats really funny...snorting heroin...weeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Old 2003-08-12, 20:26
KungFuJim KungFuJim is offline
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

quote:Originally posted by Rhino086:

Are drugs always bad?

Illegal drugs are always bad. There's no good use for sniffing glue or snorting heroin.

But many drugs were developed as medications by doctors to help treat patients with very specific medical conditions. And for those people, drugs make sense. Unfortunately, many of these drugs are used by people who don't need them. Which, if you think about it, is kind of like going for chemotherapy when you don't have cancer. In other words, really dumb.



hehe thats really funny...snorting heroin...weeeeeeeeeeeeee

If u look at it herion has some therputic use. I mean it was made to get civil war soldiers off of morphine.

[This message has been edited by KungFuJim (edited 08-12-2003).]
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Old 2003-08-12, 22:58
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my svhool teacher told the class that he used to shoot heroin in vietnam. when people say that weed makes you unmotivated, i say, look at clinton. he was a pot head and became a president. like being a president is a big deal, half the people in the usa qualify.
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Old 2003-08-12, 23:50
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

Heroin has just as much medical use as morphine; it's just unnecessary if they have morphine.
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Old 2003-08-13, 00:45
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

Correct me if im wrong. I read on erowid a while back that there has only been one LSD overdose death, ever. When this guy mistook a vial of LSD for meth (or heroin) and shot it up. The military used LSD in various expiriments and used humans for testing and they would inject shit loads in testing. LSD being dry as it is it would cost a fourtune to OD on. Not enuff money for a 15 yr old to afford.
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Old 2003-08-13, 01:01
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

The only acid overdose I've ever heard of was in the early 70s, The US military had an experiment with a soldier on a constant i.v. dripper of lsd for 45 days. What I heard killed him was not the lsd, but "over-response to stimuli", as his mind could not handle the comedown after that long a period of intraveinous acid drip. On another note, for freevibe.com, I think everyone should flood propaganda sites like that with obviously bullshit stories. That way at least we're giving them a rough time for the bad rap they give lots of "drug" users...I smoke weed daily, and have always paid all my bills on time, never been arrested(as an adult), etc etc etc......I hate their BULLSHIT!!!
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Old 2003-08-13, 18:03
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

Hahaha. I like that site. I remember it saying something like "you shouldn't do heroin, because the drug dealers cut it with cocaine sometimes." Drug dealers cut heroin with cocaine? Fuck yeah, sign me up!

~passes speedballs out to everybody~

That's better than the old myth of pot dealers cutting with PCP (how the fuck could you do that without someone noticing?)
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Old 2003-08-13, 18:28
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

I posted: anyone know where i can get some sick nugs?
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Old 2003-08-14, 04:19
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

PCP was originally devoloped as a new wonder drug, I'm not sure what it was to be used for, but the drug company that created it stopped selling it for human consumption in 1968. sometime after that they stopped selling it for vetrianry use. It just seem s sort of fucked up that a drug that used to be considered great is now considered criminal. makes you think about how thick the propaganda is getting
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Old 2003-08-14, 05:24
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

this isn't bullshit! i've died 17 times from LSD overdoses. you people don't know what you're talking about!
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Old 2003-08-14, 06:14
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

The closest thing I've heard to a guy ODing on acid was in VICE magazine. They did an article on a guy who took so much LSD that his brain was fucked and he tripped out for an entire year. He took enough chrystals for 100 hits of acid and put them on 10 tabs or something, then took 3 and a half tabs, so he said it was like 50 hits (sounds more like 35 to me). He had crazy panic attacks and went to the hospital where he says his heart stopped beating at one point. He had another problem months later, when he decided to smoke a couple joints with some friends and his mind was so fucked already that he passed out and smashed his face on the ground.

So, I'd call the first thing in the hospital an OD. (By the way this may sound like a stupid drug-propaganda story or an urban legend but VICE is a legit source in my opinion so believe what you want).
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Old 2003-08-14, 19:47
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someone needs to hack into freevibe and change all their info links so they go to erowid...
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Old 2003-08-14, 21:45
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ive spent some of my freetime submitting

\/\/33|) as my antidrug.
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Old 2003-08-14, 23:47
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

Don't bother trying to post on the forums. They are edited and censored before they are put up.

Their 'forum' really isn't a forum, now is it?
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Old 2003-08-15, 00:10
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

This post is a responed to what Rizzuh, D3lirious, Rihino086, Ledy Dex, smokabowl420, and KottonMouthKing posted.

Ok D3lirious you sound like some asshole posting shit in my way of thinking I have 3 things to say to you.

1. It is a provin that places(places like Amsterdam) whare weed is made legal crime related to drugs and the use of harder drugs go down.

2. And in your nice litte story you first say that you got aids from you girlfreind(that you say you raped) and at the end you say you got aids from your babysitter(who was only a year older than you, ya right) most people would not let thare kids be watched by somone that is still a kid

but from what you say you fokes are bad people. so somthing like that might happed in your old houeshold.

3. I was in the junevile probation for like 3 years, and 1 year in a junevile grouphomes, and like a month in RYDC((which is a wusyer junevile detention center, in case you did not know) I was in for like 3 conuts of assault and like seting a lot of small fires in a cow pasture..). And I

know that I did not only was able to get on the net like 5 times max, and when I got on I never would have gone to this site some who is on the inside would e-mail freinds and go on chats sites, and on top of that I dont think that the would let you get on totse from the junevile detention center.

So in short you are eather one of the propagandist we are all hating on, or you are like some ass hole making up stuff. Take your pick. And get the hell of this site.

And Rihino086 I like the name, cuz I liked the dude from the ECW with that name but your post makes not one bit of sense cuz we are talking about Illegal drugs, not the drugs use to cure people with cancer, and the like.

And to Ledy Dex thank you for pasing out the speedballs I will have some fun with them(not realy I only do weed). But I think that I will sell the speedballs for some cash. This is funny so all the read this you must think that what I just told you is funny as hell. Whuhahahahahha.

And to smokabowl420 that is pretty interest. I wounder if someone can die from being

under-stimulied. Like that dude from Metallica music video One. would that person go insane from under-stimulied (like Metallic's One) or would the brain shut down, or would that person commit

suicide making it look like depression. But this should be posted on the a Mad Scientist forum.

And to KottonMouthKing what kind of name is that is it a redneck name, rednecks realy cool, but you are right they do censored this forum which makes it not realy a forum.

And last but not lest to Rizzuh I think I heard about a freind of a freind of a freind who died from a ilergic reaction to LSD. But thats hear say that I might not even have heard. but I can say this there are alot of peopel who are ilergic to alot of things and some one out thare is ilergic to LSD and would die from taking it, and it would be called a overdose. And then after

that the govermint would run a add on TV tell us about how people overdose on LSD all the time or some bullshit like that.

Well this is Charles Carson, Aka The Torch.
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Old 2003-08-15, 00:12
Slithzerikai Slithzerikai is offline
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quote:Originally posted by The Torch:

2. And in your nice litte story you first say that you got aids from you girlfreind(that you say you raped) and at the end you say you got aids from your babysitter(who was only a year older than you, ya right) most people would not let thare kids be watched by somone that is still a kid

but from what you say you fokes are bad people. so somthing like that might happed in your old houeshold.

He posted that to make fun of the people on Freevibe. We all know it's bullshit, that's why it's funny.

[This message has been edited by Slithzerikai (edited 08-15-2003).]
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Old 2003-08-15, 00:19
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This is a message to The Torch. I have only one thing to say:

1. GET A FUCKING CLUE

dumbass
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Old 2003-08-15, 00:43
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

quote:Originally posted by HIGH and Rising:

This is a message to The Torch. I have only one thing to say:

1. GET A FUCKING CLUE

dumbass

Eat me you litte shit. YOu didn't even read it, you just saw a long post and now you just want to make your self feel big by making fun of me.

Well this is Charles Carson, Aka The Torch.
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Old 2003-08-15, 01:01
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quote:Originally posted by TrineonX:

PCP was originally devoloped as a new wonder drug, I'm not sure what it was to be used for, but the drug company that created it stopped selling it for human consumption in 1968. sometime after that they stopped selling it for vetrianry use. It just seem s sort of fucked up that a drug that used to be considered great is now considered criminal. makes you think about how thick the propaganda is getting



Acid was invented to cure migraines by (Albert?) Hoffman. I don't remember if that was his first name or not.
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Old 2003-08-15, 21:32
KottonMouthKing KottonMouthKing is offline
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quote:Originally posted by The Torch:

And to KottonMouthKing what kind of name is that is it a redneck name, rednecks realy cool, but you are right they do censored this forum which makes it not realy a forum.

http://www.kottonmouthkings.com
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Old 2003-08-15, 22:17
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I read on a swedish site that Hallucinogen effect at about 25 - 30 mikrogram. The reported LD50 values for LSD are 46, 16.5, 0.3 mg/kg for mice, rats, and rabbits, respectively. So there you have it.

You would have to take a few thousand stamps in one time to kill yourself. Acid is one of the safest drugs, (not counting the effects on your mental health witch may cause you to commit suicide) there is. If the therapeutic dosage is at a 1000 times less than the LD50 than there you have it, it's pretty safe. (Sorry about my bad english)
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Old 2003-08-15, 23:02
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Default Re: "My 15-year old brother died of an LSD overdose..."

no he accidentially found out it was psychoactive(sp) guess what year he didnt even know he was making acid i forget why he was trying to sythesize ergot im a bit rusty.
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Old 2003-08-15, 23:36
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ok, heres a story for you. this guy my friend worked with in philly was all fucked up (like, crazy...all the time). apparently when he was younger his friends thought it would be funny if they stuck a bunch of acid in his mouth whil he was sleeping and he's been fucked up since. ok, now i know that is unrealistic and this guy is a legitimate crackhead (i've seen him cooking it before while me and some of my boys were smoking weed at his house). it isn't possible to get stuck in a trip right? i'm pretty sure its impossible, plus it doesn't sound like it would be that bad, hehe. anyway, wouldn't a persons body just get rid of it eventually, like it would wear off right?
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Old 2003-08-15, 23:37
Slithzerikai Slithzerikai is offline
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quote:Originally posted by andyboy:

(Sorry about my bad english)

If you hadn't told us, I wouldn't have known English wasn't your first language.
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Old 2003-08-16, 00:26
Trip2much1943 Trip2much1943 is offline
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post above is about d3lirious post i thought that was funny as hek
 
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