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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2003-08-10, 01:33
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Lizard Poop
I've heard this quite a few times now, but have yet to find any documents that confirm it. I have heard that smoking a small bit of lizard poop [never have any specific lizards been mentioned] can cause you to trip. I have a [very young] bearded dragon, but I'm not going to go smoking his shit based on rumors. I guess this would be the best way to confirm it, but I'm sure most would be a bit reluctant about smoking feces.
So, has anyone heard of this, tried this, know anybody whos tried this, etc.....?
And don't gimme bullshit about how this would be 'pathetic'. Not all drugs start out in the most pleseant conditions, and if something contains a psychoactive chmical that can be used safetly, I see no problem in using it [responsibly]. Be it illegal, legal, some sort of OTC medicine, or a plant that grows on every street corner. And keep in mind I'm not going to be smoking lizard shit!
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#2
 2003-08-10, 01:35
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Re: Lizard Poop
quote:Originally posted by SEN D-F:
I've heard this quite a few times now, but have yet to find any documents that confirm it. I have heard that smoking a small bit of lizard poop [never have any specific lizards been mentioned] can cause you to trip. I have a [very young] bearded dragon, but I'm not going to go smoking his shit based on rumors. I guess this would be the best way to confirm it, but I'm sure most would be a bit reluctant about smoking feces.
So, has anyone heard of this, tried this, know anybody whos tried this, etc.....?
And don't gimme bullshit about how this would be 'pathetic'. Not all drugs start out in the most pleseant conditions, and if something contains a psychoactive chmical that can be used safetly, I see no problem in using it [responsibly]. Be it illegal, legal, some sort of OTC medicine, or a plant that grows on every street corner. And keep in mind I'm not going to be smoking lizard shit!
ehhh im thinking its just a rumor...thats pretty nasty.
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#3
 2003-08-10, 01:47
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Re: Lizard Poop
Agreed, it does seem pretty gross. But then again, the heat would kill any bacteria, and it would be pretty much the same as smoking anything else. None the less, still gross.
The only thing I can find online about this, is this:
- http://www.eightballmagazine.com/diatribes/volume01/diatribes050/diatribe s1022-1042/diatribes1023.htm (http://www.eightballmagazine.com/diatribes/volume01/diatribes050/diatribes1022-1042/diatribes1023.htm)
As you can see, it focuses on the DRINKING of lizard shit [now THAT is nasty!] mixed with dye's and other garbage, but also mentions smokin it with weed.
[This message has been edited by SEN D-F (edited 08-10-2003).]
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#4
 2003-08-10, 02:06
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Re: Lizard Poop
Ahhh, yeah man I think you just came across another bullshit rumour. I don't think anyone in the right mind would go smoking/drinking(ugh) lizard shit!
That's pretty nasty, but not the stupidest rumours I've heard  .
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#5
 2003-08-10, 03:36
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Re: Lizard Poop
Yeah man, you should try it thought to tell us. lol if it works you can bet your ass im getting a lizard.
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#6
 2003-08-10, 03:41
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Re: Lizard Poop
does anybody actually have a lizard here, though? i know for most lizards (especially iguanas) that their shit smells...and you're thinking "of course is smells, jackass, it's shit" but what i mean is...it smells...permanently. it is perhaps the worst odor possibly (there has to be a worst, and i think this is it) and not only that, but anything it gets on will PERMANENTLY smell of the horrible horrible bitter nasty odor of iguana-ass....just trying to help.
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#7
 2003-08-10, 03:43
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Re: Lizard Poop
quote:Originally posted by living_on_stolen_chances:
does anybody actually have a lizard here, though? i know for most lizards (especially iguanas) that their shit smells...and you're thinking "of course is smells, jackass, it's shit" but what i mean is...it smells...permanently. it is perhaps the worst odor possibly (there has to be a worst, and i think this is it) and not only that, but anything it gets on will PERMANENTLY smell of the horrible horrible bitter nasty odor of iguana-ass....just trying to help.
lmao funny shit
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#8
 2003-08-10, 04:32
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Re: Lizard Poop
Well, like I said I have a lizard. However, he is small so he only takes tiny shits. Plus there is sand in the tank so all the shit gets covered in sand and becomes hidden.
And even still, I don't want to smoke the shit because I have no clue as to whats in it. It could do some serious dammage for all I know.
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#9
 2003-08-10, 05:06
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xSkrying 
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Re: Lizard Poop
C'mon man smoke the poo
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#10
 2003-08-10, 06:00
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Re: Lizard Poop
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2131440.stm
pictures and everything...
here's another good article but no pictures - http://www.itechnology.co.za/index.php?click_id=86&art_id=qw1025184960603B252&set_id=1
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#11
 2003-08-10, 06:04
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Re: Lizard Poop
Wow.....
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#12
 2003-08-10, 07:06
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Re: Lizard Poop
lol thats some funny shit.....hehe
At first i thought it might have got mixed up with the toad-licking thing but i think the news thing sums it up.
I'd like to know whats in it that makes you high (if anything), does anyone have any idea?
M_M
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#13
 2003-08-10, 07:58
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Re: Lizard Poop
The intoxicant effects of smoking or drinking a lizard shit mixture could be due to several things.
1. it could be a placebo effect that is exagerated by the use of other substances in the mixture such as the blue laundy dye, or marijuana.
2. It could be that the lizards excrete certain residual alkaloids that they have consumed from their natural diet.
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#14
 2003-08-10, 17:46
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Re: Lizard Poop
Might only be a certain lizard. Bearded dragons come from Australia, so the Nigerians aren't smoking shit from them.
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#15
 2003-08-10, 23:30
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Re: Lizard Poop
dont you think you better just control your urges and NOT smoke lizard shit? I mean, i know its so tempting but just try to play this one safe and leave your lizard's shit alone. damn
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#16
 2003-08-10, 23:38
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Re: Lizard Poop
quote:Originally posted by boomgetchopped:
dont you think you better just control your urges and NOT smoke lizard shit? I mean, i know its so tempting but just try to play this one safe and leave your lizard's shit alone. damn
Maybe you should actually read what has been said throughout the thread. I am simply curious about this because I heard it and what to know whether its true or not, and have said multipul times that I won't be smoking lizard shit at all.
Moron.
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#17
 2003-08-11, 00:56
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Re: Lizard Poop
Yeah man it totally works. I've had a lizard for years now and I smoke his shit all the time. Just grab a few droppings and stick it in the bowl. Tell me how it goes. To me the effects seem similar to Mescaline. And it lasts 3 hours. So go ahead and tell me how it was when you're done.
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#18
 2003-08-11, 02:41
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Re: Lizard Poop
^
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-Factual statement? I find it hard to believe.....
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#19
 2003-08-11, 02:42
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Re: Lizard Poop
quote:Originally posted by HIGH and Rising:
Yeah man it totally works. I've had a lizard for years now and I smoke his shit all the time. Just grab a few droppings and stick it in the bowl. Tell me how it goes. To me the effects seem similar to Mescaline. And it lasts 3 hours. So go ahead and tell me how it was when you're done.
retard.
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#20
 2003-08-11, 03:01
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Re: Lizard Poop
quote:Originally posted by The pharmacist:
It could be that the lizards excrete certain residual alkaloids that they have consumed from their natural diet.
In which case you'd probably be better off consuming those alkaloids from their natural sources like plants instead of making lizard excrement the middle man.
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#21
 2003-08-11, 03:14
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Re: Lizard Poop
Smoking lizard shit will get you high. Unlike all this other bullshit going around.
It was all over the news down here about 2-3 years ago. It is said to have started in Aisa where things like this are common. Such as paying someone to have their scorpion sting you for a high.
Although I have never tried it, it is said to be somewhat of a hallucinogenic high. And I believe it is from smoking shit from brown anoles. Those fuckin things that are all over the place down here. About the only other thing they are good for is shooting with the pellet gun.
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#22
 2003-08-11, 03:40
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Re: Lizard Poop
remember, just the choice white bits
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#23
 2003-08-11, 18:42
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Re: Lizard Poop
i heard in iraq and those other sand countries that they smoke dried scorpion claws to get fucked up. thats gotta be harsh on the lungs.
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#24
 2003-08-11, 19:14
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Re: Lizard Poop
I'd hit it!
...actually, no I wouldn't.
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#25
 2003-08-11, 19:52
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Re: Lizard Poop
just say no to lizard shit
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#26
 2003-08-11, 21:05
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Re: Lizard Poop
quote:Originally posted by KottonMouthKing:
Smoking lizard shit will get you high. Unlike all this other bullshit going around.
It was all over the news down here about 2-3 years ago. It is said to have started in Aisa where things like this are common. Such as paying someone to have their scorpion sting you for a high.
Although I have never tried it, it is said to be somewhat of a hallucinogenic high. And I believe it is from smoking shit from brown anoles. Those fuckin things that are all over the place down here. About the only other thing they are good for is shooting with the pellet gun.
Id say you try it, it cant hurt, just stink,brown anoles are everywhere here too. Tell us how it is.
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#27
 2003-08-11, 21:30
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Re: Lizard Poop
If its true I can imagine that people would do it, you run out of weed and you see that poop of that lizard you just bought laying around. Than you say what the heck Ill give it try. Well I wouldnt do I'd say.
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#28
 2003-08-11, 21:36
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Re: Lizard Poop
quote:Originally posted by pyro_guy187:
Id say you try it, it cant hurt, just stink,brown anoles are everywhere here too. Tell us how it is.
Hey man! It's the second person from Palm City I've met on these forums. You guys supply the Martin County area with the best dope around here. I got the most kickass Orange Crush from a guy up there less than a month ago.
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#29
 2003-08-11, 22:28
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Re: Lizard Poop
One of the ingredients that these people add to the lizard dung drink is Lathyrus Sativus seeds (a type of pea-pod). This may be the key ingredient that may produce a 'high'- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9339216&dopt=Abstract
Also: the dye they add to the drink may be related to Syrian Rue aka Harmala aka Harmaline (the MAOi add-mixture of Ayahuasca)Harmaline is also psychoactive in intself and is a schedule 1 narcotic in the USA.
NOTE: they only seem to use/mix the chalky, calcium base portion of the lizard feces and NOT the actual fecal matter. This portion of the lizard excrement is almost entirely calcium and appears as a pure white stone behind the actual excrement. I have know idea what role calcium would play in a psychoactive substance but my guess is: none.
Therefore the lizard feces portion of the mixture may just be 'added shit'.
If Lathyrus Sativus seeds have any tryptamines in them then the admixture dye (Rue) would deactivate the mono oxidase system in the body, making the tryptamines orally active/psychoactive.
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#30
 2003-08-16, 13:40
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Re: Lizard Poop
Haha, that BBC news article is funny as hell.
These are all quoted from the BBC article, so don't flame me!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38138000/jpg/_38138966_lizshit150.jpg (http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38138000/jpg/_38138966_lizshit150.jpg)
"Lizard droppings are a cheap alternative to cocaine"
"Nigerians are looking for thrills in strange places "
"The lizard dung is the most important part of the mixture," one of the men tells me.
"We take a bowl, and start by adding blue dye powder to some water.
"Then we take the seeds from this fruit - called Zaqami. It's a powerful medicine.
"Next we take the white part of the lizard dung and crumble it into the water. There are other things we can add as well, but this is ok.
"It's ready to drink now."
As the three men talk to me, they pass the bowl of blue liquid between them, drinking it, then chasing the mixture down with handful of peanuts.
They tell me it helps the overall effect - like drinking strong whisky on a very hot day.
The effects will then have to be slept off in the afternoon. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38138000/jpg/_38138936_smoking150.jpg (http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38138000/jpg/_38138936_smoking150.jpg)
Smoke that shit up!
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#31
 2003-08-17, 11:18
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Re: Lizard Poop
i have a rather large moniter lizard who eats mice and shits them out. i have no idea how the fuck this could get me high.
also heres some more information to add to this:
"Many reptiles live in dry environments (e.g., rattlesnakes in the desert). Among the many adaptations to such environments is their ability to convert waste nitrogen compounds into uric acid.
Uric acid is quite insoluble and so can be excreted using only a small amount of water. Thus we find that reptile glomeruli are quite small and, in fact, some reptiles have no glomeruli at all.
Those with glomeruli filter just enough fluid to wash the uric acid, which is secreted by the tubules, into the cloaca. Most of this moisture is reabsorbed in the cloaca. Emptying the cloaca deposits feces (brown) and uric acid (a white paste)."
hmm. uric acid...the same as birds...so can i get high off of bird shit too?
im not trying to flame or anything but if someone actually has the balls to try this and gets somthing out of it im willing to try 
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#32
 2003-08-17, 19:09
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Re: Lizard Poop
quote:Originally posted by KottonMouthKing:
Hey man! It's the second person from Palm City I've met on these forums. You guys supply the Martin County area with the best dope around here. I got the most kickass Orange Crush from a guy up there less than a month ago.
I wish I can find that weed you talk of, and were did the guy live I might know who you are talking about.
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#33
 2003-08-17, 19:36
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Re: Lizard Poop
I have been smoking my lizards shit for about 3 months now, and like the other guy said the effects are similar to mescaline. I like to coat my papers with it and sprinkle a little in my joint with some good weed. Carefull though, there's some pretty strong hallucinations.
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