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 #1 
Old 2003-08-10, 00:53
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Default i didn't get high on salvia extract

ok tell me what i did wrong when smoking slavia.

I went to the bong shop and bought x6 extract for £20. I put it in a bong, lit it, no tobacco, took huge hits, kept them in for ages, got through it all and all it did was make me dizzy, had no effect after 3 hours, earlier that day i had been taking poppers but i doubt that effected anything.

what went wrong, i shared out all the extract with 2 other people, they didn't get high either

i dont know what else i can say
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Old 2003-08-10, 00:55
CrAzY_PyRo CrAzY_PyRo is offline
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Default Re: i didn't get high on salvia extract

Did you used a torch lighter?
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Old 2003-08-10, 01:01
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Default Re: i didn't get high on salvia extract

you shouldn't have got high from it if you did it right anyway. some people seem to be immune to salvia. coincedence if the others didn't feel anything either.
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Old 2003-08-10, 01:03
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SomeEverydayNobody
Default Re: i didn't get high on salvia extract

Yeah, if you don't use a torch lighter, you're pretty much wasting it. So did you?
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Old 2003-08-10, 01:05
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SomeEverydayNobody
Default Re: i didn't get high on salvia extract

quote:Originally posted by weed man:

you shouldn't have got high from it if you did it right anyway. some people seem to be immune to salvia. coincedence if the others didn't feel anything either.

That doesnt mean he's immune to it, so saying 'you shouldn't have got high from it if you did it right anyway' is pretty silly. Especially considering the other people didn't get high.
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Old 2003-08-10, 01:15
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Default Re: i didn't get high on salvia extract

i didn't use a torch lighter, shouldn't they put something like that on the packet? i smoked 1 gm for 3 people, thats what it said, and it said one "dose" is 150 mg
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Old 2003-08-10, 01:19
asoefhgas asoefhgas is offline
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Default Re: i didn't get high on salvia extract

some people just have a tolerance. a friend of mine that i smoke salvia with is taller and meatier than i am, but the same dose of 5x that sends him to la-la land doesn't do much of anything for me.

i suggest stepping up to 10x.
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Old 2003-08-10, 01:20
CrAzY_PyRo CrAzY_PyRo is offline
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Default Re: i didn't get high on salvia extract

Next time, use a torch lighter. Salvia don't work with a normal lighter
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Old 2003-08-10, 01:36
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Humboldt County High
Default Re: i didn't get high on salvia extract

quote:Originally posted by CrAzY_PyRo:

Next time, use a torch lighter. Salvia don't work with a normal lighter

Yes this is true. It is impossible with a standard flame.
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Old 2003-08-10, 01:37
Harmonic Distortion Harmonic Distortion is offline
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Default Re: i didn't get high on salvia extract

Torch-style lighter = yes

Salvinorin vaporizes at temperatures higher than a standard lighter can produce... you can get some of it using a regular lighter but it's just way more efficient to use a torch lighter.
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Old 2003-08-10, 01:57
NAMBLA for School Board NAMBLA for School Board is offline
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Default Re: i didn't get high on salvia extract

Listen, If you follow these basic rules you are guaranteed to break-through. I don't believe in the "salvia tolerance" hype for one second. The fact remains that if any person has 1mg salvinorin in their blood stream...they are going on a wild ride, period.

The problem is most people are not able to get the threshold level of salvinorin into thier blood because of inefficient smoking methods and other reasons.

Here's what you need to do:

-Obtain quality Standardized Salvinorin 10x extract (iamshaman or herbal-shaman)

-Mix the extract with a small amount of Marijuana (This really works)

-Add a small marijuana base into the bowl of your WATER BONG and then add 120mgs of the 10x on top. Add an ice cube into the water.

-Use a butane lighter and keep the flame directly over the extract THE ENTIRE TIME you are inhaling.

-TAKE A HUGE HIT (if you cough it up, you need to start over) Try to clear the bowl in one hit. Do not let any smoke escape from your lungs.

-HOLD THIS HUGE HIT in your lungs for A MINIMUM OF 20 seconds (have your sitter count down from 20 one-thousand 19 one-thousand, etc. (You'd be surprised how many people THINK they've held the hit for 20 seconds but it was more like 14).

-Be on your bed and get ready to give the bong to your sitter (or it will be shattered when you come back to reality)

If you follow these steps EXACTLY, THERE IS NO WAY you will not break-through.
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Old 2003-08-10, 04:19
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LandOfOz
Default Re: i didn't get high on salvia extract

You can use a normal lighter, it does work, just need to hold the flame on the salvia for longer. But a torch lighter is ideal...I used one that had a temp of 1200 degrees, vaporise that!

Step up the extract, same thing happens to me, I just feel really stoned for 10 mins, little wavy nothing more. Hopefully a 10x would be better, but Im giving salvia a miss, too hard to find, and I cant trust the extract.
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Old 2003-08-10, 04:26
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SomeEverydayNobody
Default Re: i didn't get high on salvia extract

quote:Originally posted by nikolai the second:

i didn't use a torch lighter, shouldn't they put something like that on the packet? i smoked 1 gm for 3 people, thats what it said, and it said one "dose" is 150 mg

No. You're responsible for researching it yourself. They only supply you with the product, its not their responsibility to walk you through the proccess of smoking it.
 
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