i read about this earlyier and have never heard of anyone talkin about hallucinogenic fish.......anyone ever tried a type of

hallucinogenic fish........

here is a list of them if interested



Abudefduf septemfasciatus (Sergeant major) Pacific Ocean, Africa

: Epinephelus corallicola (Grouper) Pacific Ocean

: Kyphosus cinerascens (Bluefish) Indonesia

: Kyphosus vaigiensis (Brass bream) Indonesia

: Mugil cephalus (Flathead mullet) The tropics

: Mulloidichtys samoensis (Golden goatfish) Indonesia

: Neomyxus chaptali (Mullet) Indonesia

: Saganus oramin (Rabbitfish) Indonesia,

West Africa

: Upeneus arge (Goatfish) Indonesia



(there could be more but, that's all i found)



it also states that "nobody is known to have died from consumption". No mention of what the active ingredient is or anything.

boredom sux

That's pretty interesting. I've seen most of those fish whilst diving. Have you got an url for the article?

i got it from the great erowid http://www.erowid.org/animals/fish/fish_info1.shtml

I have heard of a fish in the North atlantic near Iceland and Greenland that makes on trip from holding it or touching it. I would imagine it's some type of tryptamine, as those are the most commonly occuring natural psychadelic, especially of that caliber. I read a trip report and the experience sounded like a slow-motion DMT trip. The reporter said it peaked for about an hour and came on fast.

All I wanna know is where to take my rod and tackle :P

I'd like to know that myself, I love fishing, living in Norway and all.

Living in Norway also makes me pretty close to the north atlantic

Wow, I was just first reading about these fish yesterday on erowid. But no, I know nothing else about them than whats on there...

I didn't think tryptamines could be absorbed transdermally. We'll see i guess.

If you think about it those fish have a pretty good natural defense system, a shark who eats one of them sure wont do it again(unless he likes tripping)

If the fish are small enough to breed in captivity, however, we'd all see a new hallucinogenic hitting the streets soon. If anyone has a really big saltwater aquarium, try to get some live specimens for breeding.

Ive seen most of those fish while diving too. Sergeant majors make good sushi, but I am unsure that they really have any halucigenic qualities.

Grouper, Bluefish, Sergeant Majors and Goatfish are so common, I can't believe more people don't breed them for the purpose of getting high. There must be a catch.

i used to eat grouper and mullet all the time when i was in florida. i never tripped.

quote:i used to eat grouper and mullet all the time when i was in florida. i never tripped. quote:: : I heard on the radio last night about a trend with some students at some university (What a unique way to set up a 'strange new drug' story in the media) were swalowing live tropical fish of some variety, and the fish would release a drug when in the stomach that was a hallucinogen. Anyone heard about this? More info?Thusly, a cooked fish won't make you trip... i guess.

i'd like to know if anyone finds out anything...

quote:Originally posted by GANJAMIN:

I didn't think tryptamines could be absorbed transdermally. We'll see i guess.

...Especially in quantities large enough to experience effects...

About the whole cooking thing... that probably does destroy any possible "active ingredients" in these fish. Heat IS notorious for breaking down certain drugs, as I'm sure you all know. *winky wink*

dude you could sell sooo mny of those at a phish concert. all te hippies would be like WHOAOAOAOAOA

I'm gonna buy some MaoMao fish heads soon. I'll let yas know of the results.

--kp

i also heard that puffer fish result in some kind of intoxication, but im not sure what kind, also, if you eat even the smallest amount of the wrong part (body part) of this fish i hear it will kill you almost instantly....any word on that?

yeah puffers are toxic

quote:Originally posted by etcetablah:

I can't believe more people don't breed them for the purpose of getting high. There must be a catch.[/B]

Sounds kinda punny to me

I believe what you are describing is ciguatera toxicity. This is a toxin found in reef fish that eat certain dinoflaguates(algae). The smaller reef fish are then consumed by larger fish such as grouper, amberjack, barracuda, and red snapper. Over time, the toxin accumulates in the flesh of the fish in much the same way as mercury does.

Ciguatera toxicity however is not known to normally cause hallucinations. it noramlly affects the gastrointestinal, cardiovascular, and neurological systems of the body. The mortality rate is typicaly around .1%, but can sometimes rise to 20%. Death normally occurs through cardiovascular depression, respiratory paralysis, or hypovolemic shock.

quote:Originally posted by FukuTo:

Sounds kinda punny to me

You were the only person to 'catch' on to that one.

I can't remember where I read this, but stings from certain jellyfish, once neutralised, can produce hallucinations in some people. I'd rather not find out though, the idea of someone urinating on me is less than pleasant.